Hello again Just three things to say for now in answer to your questions and instructions. Firstly, I do use Norton Anti Virus and always have. It has always done the job for me and I am happy with it. The Norton Utilities was something I had when I used 98 or ME and was not necessary with XP. So, I dont really want to delete every single entry for Norton or Symantec or else I'll find myself in bother (again, they said *s*). Secondly, no Chuck I have never used one of thse little keychainy thingys, so thats not a problem. Thirdly, I am pretty sure my system restore does not work. If I try to even start it, it brings up an error message with "Run a dll as an App" and then closes. However, that has never worried me because I do backup my whole kit and kaboodle every night with Drive Image and have used it on a few occasions and it works well. So, they are my three points for today. I will do as Armando says to try and get my kodak back again but not today, I am off out into the wild blue yonder for a day of fun and frivolity *s*. Thanks for everything. Sandy :) ----- Original Message ----- From: ChasM49@xxxxxxx To: triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 2:06 AM Subject: [triadtechtalk] Re: Kodak digital camera woes In a message dated 7/3/2004 10:43:21 AM Central Standard Time, avbsantos@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: The camera should always be listed as a device and not as a "drive", for it is not a jump drive, it is a camera, whence your problems. Sandy........ an off the wall question.... by chance... have you ever used one of those new little keychain thngies that stores files?.... seems they get installed automaticlly as a drive by xp when you do.... they are the usb connected external drives......and....... xp sets the usb port to see them as an external drives.... and since your camera uses the basiclly same type memory device as they use...... just possibly may have decdied that is the way it has to be.....I have one of the drives... and my son uses it at times on my pc...... seems he installed drivers for it when he connected it up on my .... in my case it set a file named sm1bg.(exe) ....without the quotes.... in my windows system folder.... created a bit of havoc until I discovered that oddball named file there ... deleted it and problems ended...... the drivers for those devices are not needed by xp ... only for 98 and ME...... and if installed in xp create problems........ just a rhought..... chuck... in ok