[TCUG] Re: Wacky Ideas - Isolated Ped Crossings
- From: Dick Andrews <RAndrews@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:53:55 +0100
There is a small delay with an instant green man due to the intergreen
(invariably set to 4 secs). It may help the motorist anticipate pedestrians
using crossings and even help the safety of zebras. Yes I've seen motorists
"surprised" by a change in the signals, but no I'm not aware of any
accidents as a result of an instant green man. I am of course only talking
about 30 mph roads.
It is of course a moot point as to whether it would it would help a modal
shift to walking.......just as we are giving motorists a message by putting
in bus lanes.........
Dick
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Crabtree, Mark R [SMTP:mcrabtree@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 16 June 2004 11:21
> To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [TCUG] Re: Wacky Ideas - Isolated Ped Crossings
>
> Peter
>
> The point of the 3 second delay (or whatever you choose) is to give
> drivers some advanced warning, from the presence of the waiting
> pedestrian, that the signals might change soon.
>
> Mark=20
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Jones [mailto:peter.jones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
> Sent: 16 June 2004 11:16
> To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [TCUG] Re: Wacky Ideas - Isolated Ped Crossings
>
>
>
> Mark,
>
> I take on board points 2 & 3 but can't understand point 1. It is
> difficult to get people to walk when the green man and audio appear
> without them first watching that vehicle slow to an stop. I cannot
> believe people would 'press and go'. If a delay was introduced, are
> they not just as likely to walk as soon as they see the vehicle amber
> under the same argument?
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
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