Peter The point of the 3 second delay (or whatever you choose) is to give drivers some advanced warning, from the presence of the waiting pedestrian, that the signals might change soon. Mark=20 -----Original Message----- From: Peter Jones [mailto:peter.jones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: 16 June 2004 11:16 To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TCUG] Re: Wacky Ideas - Isolated Ped Crossings Mark, I take on board points 2 & 3 but can't understand point 1. It is difficult to get people to walk when the green man and audio appear without them first watching that vehicle slow to an stop. I cannot believe people would 'press and go'. If a delay was introduced, are they not just as likely to walk as soon as they see the vehicle amber under the same argument? Peter Peter Jones Project Leader - Traffic Control Systems Phone: +44 (0) 151 934 4254 Fax: +44 (0) 151 922 4514 Mobile: 07788 100 584 Peter.Jones (AT) technical.sefton.gov.uk Sefton MBC - UTC 7th Floor Balliol House Balliol Road Bootle L20 3NJ Please see our web pages on traffic control in Sefton: http://www.sefton.gov.uk/content-2781 ----------------------------------------------------------- A message from the TCUG mailing list. For information about the list visit //www.freelists.org/webpage/tcug ______________________________________________________ This communication contains information sent from the TRL Limited email system which is confidential, and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the addressee. If you are not the addressee, please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication, or the information therein, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender by return email. TRL Limited reserves the right to monitor emails in accordance with the Telecommunications Lawful Business Practice - Interception of Communications Regulations 2000. _______________________________________ TRL has moved. Our new address is: TRL Limited Crowthorne House Nine Mile Ride Wokingham Berkshire RG40 3GA United Kingdom ----------------------------------------------------------- A message from the TCUG mailing list. For information about the list visit //www.freelists.org/webpage/tcug