[ratpack] Re: Carls Winter cross photos
- From: "Larry Knight" <Larry.Knight@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:20:45 -0700
Good stuff Ray, I would have never thought to increase the canvas size
to change the center point of the rotation, as the British would say
Brilliant!! Haga-san (only because Noriyuki-san is harder to type) has
never looked so good!!(and since Ben Spies won the championship, I think
it is ok to make Haga-san shots look better)(notice the nationalism in
there).
Not a sure thing on Barrichello, but let Flavio know just the same.
If there is going to be nationalism in racing, and I agree there always
has been, then how about a little Americanism once in a while in the
racing world!!!!!!! Come on corporate America, let's support our
racers!!! (I find it interesting that Peter Windsor, a Brit by birth,
raised in Australia, has hooked up with and American to do an American
F1 effort. I am thrilled, to be sure, but very interesting.
Did you hear that Timo Glock just signed with the Manor F1 team, next
year. I guess he is used to the back of the grid, so this won't be a big
change for him (Toyota F1 spending a good deal of time at the back over
the years)
Larr
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Subject: [ratpack] Re: Carls Winter cross photos
At 09:47 AM 11/17/2009, you wrote:
>Ray, you have a picture in your SBK superbikes that would tilt
>beautifully (my opinion) it is pic # 20090529 0688r8 of Noriyuki Haga
>on the #41 Ducati.
>Tilt it Ray, it will be stunning, if it doesn't cut off some of the
>bike, do you have an un-cropped copy of that shot or are those the real
>edges?
Yep. I'm including the originally cropped one (no straightening or
tilt), one done CW and one CCW. Your statement about cropping when
tilting was spot on....but I found that if I increased the canvas size
in all directions, I could minimize that somewhat. I went from
3888x2592 to 5000x4000 pixels (not image size, but blank canvas) before
doing the rotation and it seemed to move the center of rotation so that
not as much was lost at the left side of the image. Having said that,
each of the rotated images are about the max I could get out of it. And
when looking at your shot (makes me dizzy, too)...well, there's no way I
could get that much out of it.
This is my ignorance of the concept here: If the idea is to get a
rather large amount of rotation as you did, then I can't do it with that
shot. However, I found another shot of Haga-san (or is it
Noriyuki-san?) that wasn't as tight and made two attempts at it. Both
of them somewhere between 30 and 45 degrees (I used the rotate handle on
the crop box...oh, I love that in PSP), one CW, one CCW, but still not
nearly corkscrew-like. I think I'm gonna have to add 'em to a 2nd post
along with some observations.
>I've attached another tilted another shot, almost makes me dizzy
>looking at this one. Just another example of tilt. Miller does not
>really have a turn like that! I was wishing I was at Laguna Seca at the
>Cork Screw when I tilted it (I still wish I was at Laguna Seca at the
Cork Screw).
>I actually tilted this shot on the camera and then added more tilt with
>software. Bonus points if you can tell me which corner this is at
>Miller. It is a lot of tilt, and I don't think it would work with a
>car, but give me your opinion, too much tilt or does it work?
I spose it's in the eye of the beholder. I can see that shot in a
magazine inserted by an editor that wanted something very dramatic. But
I may be over-thinking it.
>As to the pricing thing, I think it is what you can get. Paul & Ray
>usually get a little more than I do, but they put more effort and time
>into showing their stuff.
<snip>
I spent a lot of time showing my stuff (hmm...sounds like something one
would here at a strip club) for a reason. I mentioned it before, but
it's because I've had trouble with personal selling and I needed to work
on that. I believe it was fruitful. I feel better about it and I have
some gear that sales paid for. I won't state that I'd rather be selling
that shooting, but it's not quite as difficult as it was for me at the
beginning of the year.
>But Ray is right, we sure don't want to start a undercutting each
other.
<snip>
I think this is the basic idea. I don't think anyone wants to set
absolute dollar values that apply to everyone, because all of our work
is different. If we were selling apples from a barrel, that'd be
different. But that's not the case. We're selling art and its value IS
determined by the perceived value, not by a chart or market value. What
might be worth $1000 to one guy wouldn't be worth $50 to another. (I've
promised a friend to call him immediately when I sell a photo for $1000.
I wonder if he'd mind if I woke him up to tell him about the shot I got
of a politician and the hooker in the motel???)
>Ross Brawn is a wealthy man. What a whirlwind year for him and that
>team. I hope Mr. Button gets a good gig next year, see what you get for
>winning the world championship and not being German!!! No ride in
>German team!! Sometimes I think it is a real shame that patriotism
>enters into racing like it does, and other times I think it is great.
>A1GP is all about countries and is really fun (was really fun when it
>was televised). I thought that Mr. Barrichello was off to Williams???
Nationalism has been part of it from day one. The 1914 French GP (no,
I'd remember if I was there...I don't think so) was exactly
that: a battle between the French (Peugeot) and the Germans (guess who?
Mercedes.) There were also entries from the Brits (Vauxhall) and
Italians (FIAT) and it was supposedly the first use of team strategy.
The Mercedes team sent "rabbits" out to draw the Peugeots in
pursuit...and it worked. Although the rabbits blew motors, so did each
of the Peugeots...but there was one Mercedes that had been laying back,
out of the fray and it won the race. It was hailed as a great strategic
victory for the Germans. They decided to back it up
the following month by invading France. :) Btw, this info came
from a piece entitled "A Gossip About a Motor Race" that appeared in
Autocar in 1914. It's in a book "A History of the World's Racing Cars"
that I've had for decades.
I didn't know that Barrichello was on his way to Williams. If that's
the case, then he can sub-let the program concession to Flavio who will
order the programs to crash so that his own editions can be sold. :)
Ray
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