Ohhhh...soooo THAT'S what oversteer looks like! I always called it trying to get back to where you should be in the first place Well, o.k. whatever turns ya on. Enjoy, Lar! Wish I'd been there when the 'Vette went all sideways, and left skid marks in the snow off the track, not to mention the driver's underwear, or the blue Subaru taking out the timing light. DRAT! I didn't see any elements there...we were at Milller, not the Zoo! Let me sing the praises of New Zealand sheer black silk longies, fleece vests, wool socks and down-filled jackets. My shooting hand got cold, because I could only wear the liner glove on it and work the camera, with a rain cap on my D 50. Ready for December, Yes, I am! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Buck" <rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 6:01:53 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: [ratpack] Re: Carl's Winter cross photos Yes. Very nice, Carl. A tip of the hat to you for braving the elements and gettin the shots of the cone-eating Corvette. I think you may have given Larry his oversteer fix for the day. :) RtR At 02:46 PM 11/15/2009, you wrote: >Carl took these photos yesterday at Miller. Good job Mr. C. > >P > > >