[ratpack] Re: Carls Winter cross photos

  • From: Ray Buck <rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:01:44 -0700

At 09:47 AM 11/17/2009, you wrote:
Ray, you have a picture in your SBK superbikes that would tilt
beautifully (my opinion) it is pic # 20090529 0688r8 of Noriyuki Haga on
the #41 Ducati.
Tilt it Ray, it will be stunning, if it doesn't cut off some of the
bike, do you have an un-cropped copy of that shot or are those the real
edges?

Yep. I'm including the originally cropped one (no straightening or tilt), one done CW and one CCW. Your statement about cropping when tilting was spot on....but I found that if I increased the canvas size in all directions, I could minimize that somewhat. I went from 3888x2592 to 5000x4000 pixels (not image size, but blank canvas) before doing the rotation and it seemed to move the center of rotation so that not as much was lost at the left side of the image. Having said that, each of the rotated images are about the max I could get out of it. And when looking at your shot (makes me dizzy, too)...well, there's no way I could get that much out of it.

This is my ignorance of the concept here: If the idea is to get a rather large amount of rotation as you did, then I can't do it with that shot. However, I found another shot of Haga-san (or is it Noriyuki-san?) that wasn't as tight and made two attempts at it. Both of them somewhere between 30 and 45 degrees (I used the rotate handle on the crop box...oh, I love that in PSP), one CW, one CCW, but still not nearly corkscrew-like. I think I'm gonna have to add 'em to a 2nd post along with some observations.


I've attached another tilted another shot, almost makes me dizzy looking
at this one. Just another example of tilt. Miller does not really have a
turn like that! I was wishing I was at Laguna Seca at the Cork Screw
when I tilted it (I still wish I was at Laguna Seca at the Cork Screw).
I actually tilted this shot on the camera and then added more tilt with
software. Bonus points if you can tell me which corner this is at
Miller. It is a lot of tilt, and I don't think it would work with a car,
but give me your opinion, too much tilt or does it work?

I spose it's in the eye of the beholder. I can see that shot in a magazine inserted by an editor that wanted something very dramatic. But I may be over-thinking it.


As to the pricing thing, I think it is what you can get. Paul & Ray
usually get a little more than I do, but they put more effort and time
into showing their stuff.

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I spent a lot of time showing my stuff (hmm...sounds like something one would here at a strip club) for a reason. I mentioned it before, but it's because I've had trouble with personal selling and I needed to work on that. I believe it was fruitful. I feel better about it and I have some gear that sales paid for. I won't state that I'd rather be selling that shooting, but it's not quite as difficult as it was for me at the beginning of the year.


But Ray is right, we sure don't want to start a undercutting each other.

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I think this is the basic idea. I don't think anyone wants to set absolute dollar values that apply to everyone, because all of our work is different. If we were selling apples from a barrel, that'd be different. But that's not the case. We're selling art and its value IS determined by the perceived value, not by a chart or market value. What might be worth $1000 to one guy wouldn't be worth $50 to another. (I've promised a friend to call him immediately when I sell a photo for $1000. I wonder if he'd mind if I woke him up to tell him about the shot I got of a politician and the hooker in the motel???)


Ross Brawn is a wealthy man. What a whirlwind year for him and that
team. I hope Mr. Button gets a good gig next year, see what you get for
winning the world championship and not being German!!! No ride in German
team!! Sometimes I think it is a real shame that patriotism enters into
racing like it does, and other times I think it is great. A1GP is all
about countries and is really fun (was really fun when it was
televised). I thought that Mr. Barrichello was off to Williams???

Nationalism has been part of it from day one. The 1914 French GP (no, I'd remember if I was there...I don't think so) was exactly that: a battle between the French (Peugeot) and the Germans (guess who? Mercedes.) There were also entries from the Brits (Vauxhall) and Italians (FIAT) and it was supposedly the first use of team strategy. The Mercedes team sent "rabbits" out to draw the Peugeots in pursuit...and it worked. Although the rabbits blew motors, so did each of the Peugeots...but there was one Mercedes that had been laying back, out of the fray and it won the race. It was hailed as a great strategic victory for the Germans. They decided to back it up the following month by invading France. :) Btw, this info came from a piece entitled "A Gossip About a Motor Race" that appeared in Autocar in 1914. It's in a book "A History of the World's Racing Cars" that I've had for decades.

I didn't know that Barrichello was on his way to Williams. If that's the case, then he can sub-let the program concession to Flavio who will order the programs to crash so that his own editions can be sold. :)

Ray

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