The shutter on the EVS and later is MUCH nicer. too bad the cameras are such a pain to work on. The MX is just so simple (for a Rolleiflex) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 12:29 PM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: old rollei over exposing > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Brick" <jim@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:23 AM > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: old rollei over exposing > > > > At 10:59 PM 2/17/2005,> > >>Okay, WHAT manufucturers generally recommend? Point us to > >>a source or three. Show us they recommend leaving it > >>cocked, or show us they > >>recommend NOT leaving it cocked. > > > > > > OK... take Hasselblad for instance. It is not that they > > tell you one way or > > the other, they simply do not provide you with a way of > > uncocking a lens > > shutter. The ONLY way to mount or unmount a lens from a > > Hasselblad is, if > > the shutter is cocked. Hasselblad provides no way of > > uncocking a shutter > > when it is off of the camera. Yes, you can do it, but > > Hasselblad tells you > > that if you should accidentally uncock a lens shutter > > while the lens is off > > of the camera, you should cock it again using a coin and > > provided coin > > slot. Even focal plane shuttered Hasselblads (I have two) > > operate this way > > as they can use shuttered and non-shuttered lenses. The > > focal plane > > shutters as well as the lens shutters, stay cocked. > > > > ALL stored Hasselblad shutters, whether in original boxes > > awaiting sales or > > in a photographers bag, or in great grandfathers closet > > awaiting the > > eventual grandson finding it... are cocked. > > > > You simply do not have uncocked Hasselblad shutters laying > > around. After > > exposing a frame, you ALWAYS wind the camera which cocks > > the shutter and > > advances the film. Not doing this can be a problem. a.) > > you cannot remove > > the lens in order to use another, and b.) If you change > > backs, you risk a > > double exposure on the removed back and a skipped exposure > > on the new back. > > > > The first Compur shuttered Hasselblad 500c appeared in > > 1957. Hasselblad > > lens shutters, from that day on, have remained in the > > cocked state as the > > norm. Yes, some ne'er-do-wells have, undoubtedly, using a > > toothpick, > > tripped all of their Hasselblad lens shutters thinking > > they were doing > > their shutters a favor. Based upon the way the system was > > designed, I > > believe they were not. > > > > IMHO, > > > > :-) > > > > Jim > > > BTW, the type of spring used in the old "dial set" Compur > is similar to that used in the latest (as used on Hassy and > Rollei) version. That is both use a flat spiral spring like > a clock motor. These are always partially tensioned. Later > Compurs, of the "rim set" variety, up to the EVS shutters, > used coil springs. Actually, these are also partially > tensioned all the time. The idea probably is to minimise the > difference in available drive force as the shutter is > operated. > Middle age Compurs of the Compur Rapid type have an > additional booster spring for the highest speed. This is > compressed by the speed dial and accounts for the long > travel between the next to highest speed and the highest > speed and for the force needed to get there. Its probably a > good idea not to leave this spring tensioned all the time > although it may not make any difference. The reason these > shutters should not be put into the highest speed position > (usually 1/400th or 1/500th) is that the force needed to > compress this spring while the shutter is cocked may force > it under the speed ring jamming the shutter. It could also > wear the ring and spring if done often. > Its probably OK to go from the highest speed to a lower > one. > > --- > Richard Knoppow > Los Angeles, CA, USA > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ============================================================================ ================================= > To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. > ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.