[pure-silver] Re: old rollei over exposing

  • From: titrisol <titrisol@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:41:41 -0800 (PST)

I remember the TV-screen method for testing shutter speeds...
Or if you have acces to a strobo-light you maybe able to record
a pendulum/metronome with a dark background and see how long it
travels.

--- Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Shannon Stoney" <sstoney@xxxxxxx>
> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 8:23 AM
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: old rollei over exposing
> 
> 
> > >I agree with Mr. Knoppow,
> >>
> >>Though both of the failed mainsprings I've actually seen 
> >>were broken as a
> >>result of a crack started from a spot of surface 
> >>corrosion.
> >>
> >>I have seen several synchro-compurs on old Rolleiflex MX's 
> >>that were just
> >>plain worn out.  The first symptom is usually a failure to 
> >>cock the shutter
> >>when the board is extended outward.  The wear on all the 
> >>cocking mechanism
> >>parts stacks up to the point where there isn't enough 
> >>travel left to quite
> >>cock the shutter.  Generally the shutter would still 
> >>function if you could
> >>cock it manually, but even then it feels pretty rough 
> >>while the shutter is
> >>being cocked.  Theres a steel toothed ring that bears on 
> >>the aluminum
> >>housing, and that's one of the main wear points.  These 
> >>shutters are on
> >>either heavily used cameras, or have a lot of dirt in 
> >>them.
> >
> >
> > thanks for all the advice about this. I called the guy who 
> > repaired
> > my rollei, and he said that he had checked it after 
> > adjustment and
> > the shutter was working fine. I am beginning to believe 
> > that the
> > reason I think the film is overexposed is that Ilford's 
> > HP5+ roll
> > film is actually a very fast film, and shadow densities 
> > fall in the
> > 0.7 range by design (by Ilford).  I THINK my exposures are 
> > too dense,
> > by inspection and by densitometer measurement, but Ilford 
> > wants them
> > that way, so fine.  Printing times will just be longer.
> >
> > By the way, you might find it amusing that Eudora thought 
> > that your
> > message, quoted above, contained language that some might 
> > find
> > offensive.  ;-)  Can't think what it might be: 
> > "corrosion"?
> > "crack"?  "rough"?  In any event, there were two hot 
> > peppers next to
> > it.
> >
> > --shannon
> >
>    Well, checking with the guy is not going to tell you if 
> the shutter is accurate, you must measure it in some way.
>    Ilford claims they do not use the ISO method of measuring 
> speed. The ISO method effectively  specifies a contrast 
> index. This value of CI is fairly high, suitable for contact 
> printing and diffusion enlarging, perhaps even a bit high 
> for that. Ilford rates the film when it is developed for a 
> contrast index midway between that required for diffusion 
> enlargers and that for condenser enlargers. The results you 
> get should still be full range negatives. If measured by the 
> ISO method the film will probably be a little faster than 
> the Ilford numbers but probably by no more than half a stop.
>    If the negatives are over exposed (dense but of normal 
> contrast) the most likely culprit is the shutter unless the 
> stop linkage is somehow not working right. This last can be 
> checked easily by seeing if the iris is fully oped when the 
> indicator is at the maximum stop and not some other point. 
> This can happen if the camera is butched badly in repair. My 
> vote is the shutter.
>    See if someone in your area has a shutter tester and will 
> check the shutter. The Calumet tester I mentioned is nice to 
> have but is too expensive for a single test.
> 
> ---
> Richard Knoppow
> Los Angeles, CA, USA
> dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> 
>
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