Yeah thats me alright. Setting off those alarms wherever I go... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shannon Stoney" <sstoney@xxxxxxx> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 8:23 AM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: old rollei over exposing > >I agree with Mr. Knoppow, > > > >Though both of the failed mainsprings I've actually seen were broken as a > >result of a crack started from a spot of surface corrosion. > > > >I have seen several synchro-compurs on old Rolleiflex MX's that were just > >plain worn out. The first symptom is usually a failure to cock the shutter > >when the board is extended outward. The wear on all the cocking mechanism > >parts stacks up to the point where there isn't enough travel left to quite > >cock the shutter. Generally the shutter would still function if you could > >cock it manually, but even then it feels pretty rough while the shutter is > >being cocked. Theres a steel toothed ring that bears on the aluminum > >housing, and that's one of the main wear points. These shutters are on > >either heavily used cameras, or have a lot of dirt in them. > > > thanks for all the advice about this. I called the guy who repaired > my rollei, and he said that he had checked it after adjustment and > the shutter was working fine. I am beginning to believe that the > reason I think the film is overexposed is that Ilford's HP5+ roll > film is actually a very fast film, and shadow densities fall in the > 0.7 range by design (by Ilford). I THINK my exposures are too dense, > by inspection and by densitometer measurement, but Ilford wants them > that way, so fine. Printing times will just be longer. > > By the way, you might find it amusing that Eudora thought that your > message, quoted above, contained language that some might find > offensive. ;-) Can't think what it might be: "corrosion"? > "crack"? "rough"? In any event, there were two hot peppers next to > it. > > --shannon > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:13 PM > >Subject: [pure-silver] Re: old rollei over exposing > > > > > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Richard Urmonas" <rurmonas@xxxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 7:59 AM > >> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: old rollei over exposing > >> > >> > >> > Quoting "Koch, Gerald" <gkoch02@xxxxxxxxxx>: > >> > > >> >> It > >> >> is extremely important not to leave a shutter cocked for > >> >> long periods of > >> >> time. > >> > > >> > The manufacturers of the older leaf shutters generally > >> > recommend > >> > the shutter be left cocked. From a mechanical point of > >> > view, the > >> > cocked state will result in less chance of the shutter > >> > misbehaving > >> > (going sticky) as the driving spring is much stronger than > >> > the return > >> > spring, so there is more force available to 'break free' > >> > any sticky parts. > >> > > >> > Richard > >> > -- > >> > Richard Urmonas > >> > >> > >> Well, I've never seen such a recommendation. If a spring > >> is not tensioned beyond its elastic limit it probably > >> doesn't matter if its tensioned or not as far as losing > >> strength with time. > >> Many shutters do work as you describe. When the shutter > >> is cocked the restoring spring on the retarder winds the > >> retarder to its starting position. This usually brings the > >> speed control peg up against the speed cam. When the shutter > >> is tripped the retarder is forced over by the full strength > >> of the drive spring. If the retarder mechanism is glued > >> together sufficiently by old lubricant it might just not > >> move enough to allow the shutter to close again. Hard to > >> know. I would not leave shutters with booster springs in > >> their highest speed position because that puts a lot of > >> force on some of the parts and I suspect the booster springs > >> may be close their limit. > >> Springs wear pretty much because of work hardening due to > >> cycling rather than constant tension or compression. > >> The Compur shuttes used in Hasselblads and the similar > >> shutter used in EVS Rollei cameras was designed to be left > >> cocked all the time, they must be in Hassy cameras. > >> > >> --- > >> Richard Knoppow > >> Los Angeles, CA, USA > >> dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> > >=========================================================================== = > >================================= > >> To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your > >account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you > >subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. > >> > > > > > >=========================================================================== ================================== > >To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to > >your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when > >you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. > > ============================================================================ ================================= > To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. > ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.