[pure-silver] Re: old rollei over exposing
- From: "Curtis Fant" <surrealistic@xxxxxxx>
- To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:32:29 -0600
I still think it has to do with how you are metering and what your developing
is like. No clues were given to either one. Three variables, film speed,
shutter and F'/stop. Of course how you gauge those to reality is through the
light meter and meter techniques...
Curtis
----- Original Message -----
From: Shannon Stoney
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:23 AM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: old rollei over exposing
>I agree with Mr. Knoppow,
>
>Though both of the failed mainsprings I've actually seen were broken as a
>result of a crack started from a spot of surface corrosion.
>
>I have seen several synchro-compurs on old Rolleiflex MX's that were just
>plain worn out. The first symptom is usually a failure to cock the shutter
>when the board is extended outward. The wear on all the cocking mechanism
>parts stacks up to the point where there isn't enough travel left to quite
>cock the shutter. Generally the shutter would still function if you could
>cock it manually, but even then it feels pretty rough while the shutter is
>being cocked. Theres a steel toothed ring that bears on the aluminum
>housing, and that's one of the main wear points. These shutters are on
>either heavily used cameras, or have a lot of dirt in them.
thanks for all the advice about this. I called the guy who repaired
my rollei, and he said that he had checked it after adjustment and
the shutter was working fine. I am beginning to believe that the
reason I think the film is overexposed is that Ilford's HP5+ roll
film is actually a very fast film, and shadow densities fall in the
0.7 range by design (by Ilford). I THINK my exposures are too dense,
by inspection and by densitometer measurement, but Ilford wants them
that way, so fine. Printing times will just be longer.
By the way, you might find it amusing that Eudora thought that your
message, quoted above, contained language that some might find
offensive. ;-) Can't think what it might be: "corrosion"?
"crack"? "rough"? In any event, there were two hot peppers next to
it.
--shannon
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:13 PM
>Subject: [pure-silver] Re: old rollei over exposing
>
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Richard Urmonas" <rurmonas@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 7:59 AM
>> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: old rollei over exposing
>>
>>
>> > Quoting "Koch, Gerald" <gkoch02@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>> >
>> >> It
>> >> is extremely important not to leave a shutter cocked for
>> >> long periods of
>> >> time.
>> >
>> > The manufacturers of the older leaf shutters generally
>> > recommend
>> > the shutter be left cocked. From a mechanical point of
>> > view, the
>> > cocked state will result in less chance of the shutter
>> > misbehaving
>> > (going sticky) as the driving spring is much stronger than
>> > the return
>> > spring, so there is more force available to 'break free'
>> > any sticky parts.
>> >
>> > Richard
>> > --
>> > Richard Urmonas
>>
>>
>> Well, I've never seen such a recommendation. If a spring
>> is not tensioned beyond its elastic limit it probably
>> doesn't matter if its tensioned or not as far as losing
>> strength with time.
>> Many shutters do work as you describe. When the shutter
>> is cocked the restoring spring on the retarder winds the
>> retarder to its starting position. This usually brings the
>> speed control peg up against the speed cam. When the shutter
>> is tripped the retarder is forced over by the full strength
>> of the drive spring. If the retarder mechanism is glued
>> together sufficiently by old lubricant it might just not
>> move enough to allow the shutter to close again. Hard to
>> know. I would not leave shutters with booster springs in
>> their highest speed position because that puts a lot of
>> force on some of the parts and I suspect the booster springs
>> may be close their limit.
>> Springs wear pretty much because of work hardening due to
>> cycling rather than constant tension or compression.
>> The Compur shuttes used in Hasselblads and the similar
>> shutter used in EVS Rollei cameras was designed to be left
>> cocked all the time, they must be in Hassy cameras.
>>
>> ---
>> Richard Knoppow
>> Los Angeles, CA, USA
>> dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
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