[pure-silver] Re: archives
- From: Matthew Gaylen <mgaylen@xxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 01:24:39 -0500
cods wollop indeed...
I find it more than a little bit arrogant that you think you've said anything
in the archives that would 1) be worth stealing, 2) selling and 3) be worth
pursuing for recompense.
Most people who want a cd of the archives want it mostly so they can refer to
topics that have been covered before, like how to obtain sulphuric acid or how
to dissolve crystalized TF-4 or what a halide is and how it mates with ions etc.
Nobody said they wanted to sell the archives to make money, the market force
here is people who want to refer to the archived information so they don't ask
redundant questions...
In reality the market demand is probably something like 50 archive CDs for
$10--I can't imagine it would be worth any one contributor's time to pursue
reimbursement and I can't believe there's a lawyer or court in the land that
would take the case.
<sigh>
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On Friday, September 10, 2004, at 04:35PM, Rob Champagne
<psps@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>cods wallop!
>
>YOU should be declaring that YOU own the copyright of what YOU are sending to
>the list. How do we know that what YOU are sending to the list is not in
>breach of someone else's copyright.
>If YOU want YOUR messages to be copyright protected then YOU take
>responsibility for them and don't try to dump the responsibility onto someone
>else.
>If YOU were true to YOUR word YOU would be doing this but YOU are not. This is
>clearly a case of "Do what I say but not what I do".
>
>give it a rest...
>
>rob
>
>At 10/09/2004 17:12 -0400, you wrote:
>>From: DarkroomMagic <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: [pure-silver] Re: archives
>>Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 21:44:54 +0200
>>
>>> This is a purely hypothetical discussion anyway.
>>
>>Not really. If this were an empty issue, then there would be lots of
>>pure-silver CD-ROM's openly distributed by now. I don't think this is
>>much different from the need for model release form, property release
>>form, prints delivery form to galleries, license of rights for stock
>>images, etc. Even when I shoot my friend for favor, I always ask for a
>>release and give them pretty much unlimited license for use of their
>>images right away. They may need this when they print their images
>>immediately or some time in the future. In my view, archiving a
>>mailing list is not much different.
>>
>>Copyright related issues and licensing are a part of daily life of
>>artists among others, so there are many resources online and in
>>books/newsletters/magazines. There are many canned license forms that
>>you can use with minimal editing for most routine work. Only in those
>>unusual circumstances you might want to draft something and have
>>lawyers review it, but those resources tell you what kinds of things
>>are important to include.
>>
>>I do typographic work, making posters, and other printing related
>>stuff for my projects from time to time. If I try to print a poster
>>with a decent printing company, they need to know in writing we have
>>proper licensing of rights with the original artists. This sort of
>>things are very common in many aspects of creative activities, and I
>>understand some of them are necessary mechanisms to protect original
>>work.
>>
>>But there are other negative aspects of copyright, which I should save
>>for some other time.
>>
>>--
>>Ryuji Suzuki
>>"Keep a good head and always carry a light camera."
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