[projectaon] Re: Outstanding Errata Sprint (Week 6)

I think theres also the possibility that the Mentora +2 was intended as
a bonus if you werent trained in using a bow (and hence you you wouldnt
have the +3) - ie it doesnt stack. The skill says "Mentoras skilled in
Weaponmastery are more accurate", that doesn't specifically say that it
stacks with the +3. Then again, it also doesnt say that it isn't a
cumulative bonus. It is possible (just barely) to be Mentora without any
weapon mastery in bow.

When I *first* read the Improved Discipline I assumed it was cumulative
as I already had training in bow at the time. However, there isnt
anything there that specifically says it should be used in addition to
the other +3 bonus (if it applies).

The more I think about it the more sense it seems to make. an extra +2
which stacks with +3 WM-with-bow seems like a huge bonus, in fact I
would struggle to come up with a bonus that would offer an equally
beneficial improvement (other combat disciplines at best only gain +2 CS
- hardly an equal comparison). Whereas a minimum of +2 (without
WM-with-bow) is still a good bonus and keeps it more in line with the
improvement bonuses of other Disciplines.

so:
4. The "We all misinterpreted the rules" argument
    * Grand Weaponmastery with Bow +3 is correct. 
    * Ad hoc +4 and +5 bonuses replace this. 
    * The Mentora +2 only applies if you are throwing a dagger etc (as
by the Grandmaster series you should have WS-with-bow and hence get the
+3 or greater bonus).


On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 15:28 +0800, Timothy Pederick wrote:
> I'm seeing a fair bit of (what appears to me to be) arguing at
> cross-purposes. Since people said last time that my summary of the
> situation was helpful, I shall venture to do another one. This time,
> I'll just lay out the arguments that I think have been seriously
> proposed as people's preferred way of playing.
>      1. The "Joe Dever got it wrong" argument.
>               * All bonuses for having Grand Weaponmastery with Bow
>                 should be +5.
>               * All instances of +3 (and that one ad hoc +4) should be
>                 changed.
>      2. The "Grand Weaponmastery is intentionally worse" argument.
>               * The Grand Weaponmastery with Bow +3 is correct.
>               * Ad hoc +4 and +5 bonuses replace this.
>               * +3 and +4 are worse than a loyal reader's +5, so the
>                 loyal reader gets to use their +5 at all times.
>      3. The "Grand Weaponmastery is the same as Weaponmastery"
>         argument.
>               * Grand Weaponmastery with Bow +3 is correct.
>               * Ad hoc +4 and +5 bonuses replace this.
>               * A loyal reader who got the Mentora +2 (which is a
>                 subtly different bonus) can add that to Grand
>                 Weaponmastery, giving them a +5 (or ad hoc +6 or +7).
> Correct?
> 
> --
> Tim Pederick



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