[projectaon] Re: Outstanding Errata Sprint (Week 6)
- From: Chris Neilson <crusty.chris@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: projectaon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:03:43 +1200
I think theres also the possibility that the Mentora +2 was intended as
a bonus if you werent trained in using a bow (and hence you you wouldnt
have the +3) - ie it doesnt stack. The skill says "Mentoras skilled in
Weaponmastery are more accurate", that doesn't specifically say that it
stacks with the +3. Then again, it also doesnt say that it isn't a
cumulative bonus. It is possible (just barely) to be Mentora without any
weapon mastery in bow.
When I *first* read the Improved Discipline I assumed it was cumulative
as I already had training in bow at the time. However, there isnt
anything there that specifically says it should be used in addition to
the other +3 bonus (if it applies).
The more I think about it the more sense it seems to make. an extra +2
which stacks with +3 WM-with-bow seems like a huge bonus, in fact I
would struggle to come up with a bonus that would offer an equally
beneficial improvement (other combat disciplines at best only gain +2 CS
- hardly an equal comparison). Whereas a minimum of +2 (without
WM-with-bow) is still a good bonus and keeps it more in line with the
improvement bonuses of other Disciplines.
so:
4. The "We all misinterpreted the rules" argument
* Grand Weaponmastery with Bow +3 is correct.
* Ad hoc +4 and +5 bonuses replace this.
* The Mentora +2 only applies if you are throwing a dagger etc (as
by the Grandmaster series you should have WS-with-bow and hence get the
+3 or greater bonus).
On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 15:28 +0800, Timothy Pederick wrote:
> I'm seeing a fair bit of (what appears to me to be) arguing at
> cross-purposes. Since people said last time that my summary of the
> situation was helpful, I shall venture to do another one. This time,
> I'll just lay out the arguments that I think have been seriously
> proposed as people's preferred way of playing.
> 1. The "Joe Dever got it wrong" argument.
> * All bonuses for having Grand Weaponmastery with Bow
> should be +5.
> * All instances of +3 (and that one ad hoc +4) should be
> changed.
> 2. The "Grand Weaponmastery is intentionally worse" argument.
> * The Grand Weaponmastery with Bow +3 is correct.
> * Ad hoc +4 and +5 bonuses replace this.
> * +3 and +4 are worse than a loyal reader's +5, so the
> loyal reader gets to use their +5 at all times.
> 3. The "Grand Weaponmastery is the same as Weaponmastery"
> argument.
> * Grand Weaponmastery with Bow +3 is correct.
> * Ad hoc +4 and +5 bonuses replace this.
> * A loyal reader who got the Mentora +2 (which is a
> subtly different bonus) can add that to Grand
> Weaponmastery, giving them a +5 (or ad hoc +6 or +7).
> Correct?
>
> --
> Tim Pederick
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