[projectaon] Re: Errors: Eight from the Cauldron

  • From: "David Davis" <feline1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <projectaon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:47:43 -0000

Hmmm.
Right I see - I was misremembering Banedon's Golden Amulet as a Platinum Amulet.

It seems to me that the amulet's absence from the list of items you are allowed to carry over to the Grand Master books trumps the issue thereafter. And for all practical purposes, Banedon's Golden Amulet takes its place in Book 12.

So the issue to me would be:
are there any sections in Books 8 to 11 which involve EP loss due to extremes of temperature. (You tell me there are) - generally these sections will say you can avoid the EP loss if you have the discipline of Nexus?

A player who had completed Book 7 might think "hang on, why can't I use my Platinum Amulet here?" And these kind of inconsistencies can be detrimental to player enjoyment (especially if the most likely
reason appears to be "cos Joe Dever forgot about the Platinum Amulet".

My solution would thus be,
forget about re-naming the amulet,
but if we wish, would could put a footnote in all the sections from Books 8 to 11 where you can loose EPs from extreme temperature, and when Nexus can protect you, along the lines of
"Although it is not mentioned in the original text,
if you posses a Platinum Amulet from Kazan Oud, you may wish to consider it protects you from EP loss here."
?

Do we have a precedent for this kind of footnote?
(i.e. other instances where Dever appeared to "forget" about the existence of a potentially relevant special item, and our footnote has drawn it to the attention of the reader and suggested they might like to use it if they wish?)

----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Osborne" <outspaced@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <projectaon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:36 PM
Subject: [projectaon] Re: Errors: Eight from the Cauldron


David Davis wrote:
Oh I see! Sorry I wasn't really paying attention ;)

Well, I don't see any problem with it not being on the list that you can carry over to the Grand Master series - there's loads of exciting goodies not on that list.
It was just Dever striking a balance between realism and game play.

Of course! But the Platinum Amulet isn't referenced again in the Magnakai series, and you can't take it into the GM books. The next reference to a Platinum Amulet is in Book 16, where you are given one because you do not possess one already.

In Book 12, Banedon gives you a Golden Amulet to withstand the heat and poisonous fumes of The Darklands.

That means you should be able to use the Kazan-Oud Platinum Amulet in Books 8-11, only you can't. No reference is ever made to it protecting you from fire or extreme heat, nor can you use it instead of possessing Nexus.

So - can you just clarify for me - the later "real" Platinum Amulets -
where do they turn up and where are they referenced for being used?
(I'm a bit confused when you say the Kazan Oud one "is never referenced again", because surely any later books' section that says "...unless you are wearing a Platinum Amulet"
could be taken to refer to the Kazan Oud one?)

Nope. Because you can't take it into the GM series! ;-)

Amulets usually have some kind of "magical" property which could have resulted from a "spell" - if Zahda cast the original spell and his power (and Doomstone) are gone, then perhaps that
could rationalise why his Platinum Amulet no longer works?

That makes sense, though we don't necessarily want to explain our reasoning in a footnote. Or maybe we do, I'll wait for a consensus of opinion. But the easiest way to prevent this is definitely to rename the item from Platinum Amulet in Book 7.

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