[projectaon] Re: Errors: Eight from the Cauldron
- From: "Sam Seaver" <samseaver@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: projectaon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:51:27 -0600
I'd like to propose either:
Palladium amulet or Iridium amulet
http://www.webelements.com/iridium/
S
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 7:47 AM, David Davis <feline1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hmmm.
> Right I see - I was misremembering Banedon's Golden Amulet as a Platinum
> Amulet.
>
> It seems to me that the amulet's absence from the list of items you are
> allowed to carry over to the Grand Master books trumps the issue thereafter.
> And for all practical purposes, Banedon's Golden Amulet takes its place in
> Book 12.
>
> So the issue to me would be:
> are there any sections in Books 8 to 11 which involve EP loss due to
> extremes of temperature.
> (You tell me there are) - generally these sections will say you can avoid
> the EP loss if you have the discipline of Nexus?
>
> A player who had completed Book 7 might think "hang on, why can't I use my
> Platinum Amulet here?"
> And these kind of inconsistencies can be detrimental to player enjoyment
> (especially if the most likely
> reason appears to be "cos Joe Dever forgot about the Platinum Amulet".
>
> My solution would thus be,
> forget about re-naming the amulet,
> but if we wish, would could put a footnote in all the sections from Books 8
> to 11 where you
> can loose EPs from extreme temperature, and when Nexus can protect you,
> along the lines of
> "Although it is not mentioned in the original text,
> if you posses a Platinum Amulet from Kazan Oud, you may wish to consider it
> protects you from EP loss here."
> ?
>
> Do we have a precedent for this kind of footnote?
> (i.e. other instances where Dever appeared to "forget" about the existence
> of a potentially relevant special item,
> and our footnote has drawn it to the attention of the reader and suggested
> they might like to use it if they wish?)
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Osborne" <outspaced@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <projectaon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:36 PM
> Subject: [projectaon] Re: Errors: Eight from the Cauldron
>
>
>> David Davis wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh I see! Sorry I wasn't really paying attention ;)
>>>
>>> Well, I don't see any problem with it not being on the list that you can
>>> carry over to
>>> the Grand Master series - there's loads of exciting goodies not on that
>>> list.
>>> It was just Dever striking a balance between realism and game play.
>>
>> Of course! But the Platinum Amulet isn't referenced again in the Magnakai
>> series, and you can't take it into the GM books. The next reference to a
>> Platinum Amulet is in Book 16, where you are given one because you do not
>> possess one already.
>>
>> In Book 12, Banedon gives you a Golden Amulet to withstand the heat and
>> poisonous fumes of The Darklands.
>>
>> That means you should be able to use the Kazan-Oud Platinum Amulet in
>> Books 8-11, only you can't. No reference is ever made to it protecting you
>> from fire or extreme heat, nor can you use it instead of possessing Nexus.
>>
>>> So - can you just clarify for me - the later "real" Platinum Amulets -
>>> where do they turn up and where are they referenced for being used?
>>> (I'm a bit confused when you say the Kazan Oud one "is never referenced
>>> again",
>>> because surely any later books' section that says "...unless you are
>>> wearing a Platinum Amulet"
>>> could be taken to refer to the Kazan Oud one?)
>>
>> Nope. Because you can't take it into the GM series! ;-)
>>
>>> Amulets usually have some kind of "magical" property which could have
>>> resulted from a "spell" -
>>> if Zahda cast the original spell and his power (and Doomstone) are gone,
>>> then perhaps that
>>> could rationalise why his Platinum Amulet no longer works?
>>
>> That makes sense, though we don't necessarily want to explain our
>> reasoning in a footnote. Or maybe we do, I'll wait for a consensus of
>> opinion. But the easiest way to prevent this is definitely to rename the
>> item from Platinum Amulet in Book 7.
>>
>> --
>> Simon Osborne
>> Project Aon
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