RE: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN

  • From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:45:43 -0500 (EST)

Thanks for the suggestion, Sean.  The schedule of events is, indeed,
hard to find because conference management is outsourced to a company
called LetsGoExpo rather than the Center on Disabilities at California
State University, Northridge (CSUN).  After much searching, I found a
page that lists blind/low vision related events at
http://letsgoexpo.com/expo/index.cfm?EID=80000093&p=3&page=schedule&CT=1&ECTID=0&trk=BLV

That page also includes links to other session categories.

Jamal
On
Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Sean
Farrow wrote:

> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:06:09 -0000
> From: Sean Farrow <sean.farrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN
>
> Hi:
> Sonehow I feel the people performing the tasksduring the presentation
> should be aquainted with there o/s.
> Whilst I think of it does anyone know where the agenda of sessions is fo
> this years conference, I carn't seem to find it anywhere.
> As a note, how about having the user format a removable media as one of
> the comparisons
> Sean.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matthew2007
> Sent: 06 March 2008 16:51
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at
> CSUN
>
> How about the following day to day hardware types of tasks:
>
> 1. Quickly attaching and moving important files using any of the
> following peripherals such as CF cards, external hard drives, PDAs, cell
> phones, and interacting with various assistive devices such as the
> Braille Note or pacmate and so on. You would of course have to ask the
> participants to bring "all" their goodies because anything can be asked
> of them. It would be kinda crappy to ask them to do something they
> weren't prepared for such as attaching hardware they don't have in their
> bags.
>
> 2. Regular types of maintenance on the machine such as getting rid of
> temp files, running hard disk diagnostics and so on--using built-in
> tools of course. Also, interacting with each computer's control panel to
> test ease of use and accessibility when adding and removing software.
>
> 3. Quickly schedule client meetings and or phone calls using the
> particular machines built in calendar/day planner.
>
> 4. To test speed and ease of use, using the build-in search feature of
> each of these platforms to find files would be pretty interesting. I
> guess you would have to ask the participants to search for a file common
> to these platforms in an effort to obtain some sort of equality/fairness
> of the task.
>
> 5. test the portability of each of these products' file structures. That
> is, using built-in software, which of these operating systems can
> produce documents that the larger population of computer users can read.
> Then again, this might be an issue of an office productivity suite
> rather than a hardware issue. Nevertheless I'm interested in just how
> generalizable these platforms can be.
>
> 6. To see just what the operating system offers, create a list of
> built-in applications and utilities all computer users must have access
> to such as a calculator, entertainment software to play music files or
> watch movies, method of quickly jotting down notes, means of quickly
> accessing files using operating system shortcuts for files and OS
> utilities and so on.
>
> 7. Asking the participants to show off their platform by stating the
> benefits of their OS in comparison to the platform of others. In other
> words, what does your platform have and can offer that the other guy's
> doesn't.
>
> 8. I think a quick q/A in regards to what types of assistive technology
> and adaptive software can be installed on the platform would be pretty
> interesting. That is, can all 3 platforms run K1000? Can all 3 platforms
> run Open book? Can all 3 platforms interact with Braille Sense, BN, that
> APH player and so on. In doing so we will of course discover the
> usefulness and limitations of these operating systems as it relates to
> blind users.
>
> 9. Answering how one would reinstall an operating system in case of a
> digital meltdown.
>
> You know, the more I think about this question the more I'm driven right
> back to the traits of the human participants. That is, what if the
> platforms can each do any of the tasks requested of it in and effective
> easy to use manner, but the human participant is not familiar with the
> fastest method of interacting with the platform. Ultimately, I'm
> thinking that since this presentation might end up on some public forum,
> the possible lack of skills of the user interacting with their
> particular platform might convey to an audience that the platform cannot
> efficiently do what is being requested of it when in fact it might be
> user error or user lack of knowledge. This could be very unfair to an
> otherwise very easy to use operating system.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matthew
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 11:42 PM
> Subject: RE: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at
> CSUN
>
>
> >
> >
> > In this same vein
> >
> > 3.  Check some kind of web mail and respond to it using a web browser
> for
> > example a gmail account.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James
> Panes
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 11:36 PM
> > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at
> CSUN
> >
> > A couple of obvious ones:
> >
> > 1) Retrieve and respond to an email.
> >
> > 2) Use an internet browser to go on-line, fill out a form and submit
> it.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jim
> > jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx
> > jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > "Everything is easy when you know how."
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Meredith" <tallin32@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:32 PM
> > Subject: RE: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at
> CSUN
> >
> >
> > Wouldn't that only be effective if the system specs were similar?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Greer
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:24 PM
> > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at
> CSUN
> >
> > Quickest boot times from first press of the on button to screen reader
> > start.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:37 PM
> > Subject: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN
> >
> >
> >>I am moderating an event called Dueling Operating Systems at the CSUN
> >> conference next week.  Three users of an operating system and screen
> >> reader
> >> combination will compete for a couple hours:  Windows with JAWS, the
> >> Mac with VoiceOver, and Gnome/Unix with Orca.
> >>
> >> We agreed to develop a long list of possible tasks that would each
> take
> >> from about 3 to 5 minutes using software that comes with the
> operating
> >> system, except for JAWS and Microsoft Office.  Either I or others I
> >> enlist
> >> would pick a selection of tasks from the list at the actual event.
> >> Each task should be described in a general enough way so that someone
> can
> >> choose the application and screen reader techniques that achieve the
> same
> >> result.
> >>
> >> If anyone has suggestions about possible tasks to include on the
> list, I
> >> welcome such input.
> >>
> >> Jamal
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