RE: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN

I disagree - no-cost AT is only used by a tiny portion of the overall
population of users and doesn't even come close to providing the feature
sets of a JAWS or Window-Eyes yet.  SATOGO, a commercial no-cost reader is
an interesting exception but, in terms of breadth of applications supported
and total features doesn't quite reach JAWS or WE at this point in history.

This is apples, oranges and even hot dogs being compared but that's also the
state of the software available to blinks.

cdh

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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
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Subject: RE: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN



Then for Linux you could not use Orca because it is not part of the OS only
Mac would win that contest.  We need to do this kind of thing seriously.  I
would say don't use Jaws use System Access it is free if you use the online
version Thus you could say Mac is free voice over, Linux is free Orca and
Vista free as well.

Ken 

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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Greer
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:14 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN

In fact, to make it even more fair, don't use Jaws at all and Just use
Narrator.  Either XP's Narrator or Vista.  Betcha we would see a
productivity difference then huh?
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Greer" <jpgreer17@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN


> Well the point is dueling operating systems right?  That means that 
> one operating system has to win over all right?  Or is it instead, how 
> fast a bunch of people on Macs can burn a CD,  How fast a bunch of 
> Windows users can open a website?  If that is so, I personally would 
> rather know how each of the operating systems stack up against each 
> other from a productivity stand point.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Meredith" <tallin32@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:32 PM
> Subject: RE: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at 
> CSUN
>
>
>> Wouldn't that only be effective if the system specs were similar?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John 
>> Greer
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:24 PM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at 
>> CSUN
>>
>> Quickest boot times from first press of the on button to screen 
>> reader start.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:37 PM
>> Subject: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN
>>
>>
>>>I am moderating an event called Dueling Operating Systems at the CSUN  
>>>conference next week.  Three users of an operating system and screen  
>>>reader  combination will compete for a couple hours:  Windows with 
>>>JAWS, the  Mac with VoiceOver, and Gnome/Unix with Orca.
>>>
>>> We agreed to develop a long list of possible tasks that would each 
>>> take from about 3 to 5 minutes using software that comes with the 
>>> operating system, except for JAWS and Microsoft Office.  Either I or 
>>> others I enlist would pick a selection of tasks from the list at the 
>>> actual event.
>>> Each task should be described in a general enough way so that 
>>> someone can choose the application and screen reader techniques that 
>>> achieve the same result.
>>>
>>> If anyone has suggestions about possible tasks to include on the 
>>> list, I welcome such input.
>>>
>>> Jamal
>>>
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