Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
- From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:20:42 -0400 (EDT)
Thanks for explaining -- that helps me understand your preferences. I
had wondered whether you liked to have NumLock on for accounting type
operations instead.
I think Homer Layout could be modified to toggle extended rather than
Numpad keys, though I realize that may be more work than interests you if
you are generally satisfied with JAWS.
Jamal
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Octavian
Rasnita wrote:
> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:58:14 +0300
> From: Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
>
> You won't have any problems because you won't steal Freedom Scientific's
> clients.
> Sun probably won't have problems either, not only because they are too big,
> but because at least for the moment they are not an important competitor for
> FS.
>
> FS doesn't care for their ideas or for how much effort they put in their
> products, but they care only about money, because this is the main scope of
> any company.
>
> Octavian
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 6:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
>
>
> > Good ideas, Jim. I wonder if I'm also at risk for being sued for
> > emulating the JAWS keyboard interface with my Homer Layout script!
> >
> > Jamal
> > On
> > Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Jim Dunleavy wrote:
> >
> >> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:16:52 +0100
> >> From: Jim Dunleavy <jim.dunleavy@xxxxxx>
> >> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
> >>
> >> Hi Jamal,
> >>
> >> I wonder if Sun Microsystems is also at risk of being sued
> >> over Orca's bookmarks feature.
> >> We should try to get as much bad publicity as possible for FS.
> >> Maybe Groklaw would cover the story?
> >> Groklaw has helped on previous occasions to find prior art in
> >> cases where products bases on free software have been attacked,
> >> Barracuda being sued by Trend Micro over ClamAV being a notable example.
> >> It seems the point of software patents is not to protect innovation,
> >> but is about a much dirtier game altogether.
> >> I wasn't at all amazed by this.
> >>
> >> --Jim
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 12:21 PM
> >> Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi Ken,
> >> > I suspect you were being tongue in cheeck (and I love your sense of
> >> > humor!). Although legal fights can be entertaining, I don't see how
> >> > this
> >> > is in the interest of blind people, forcing a company to spend money on
> >> > defending against litigation rather than on R&D to improve access to
> >> > mainstream software.
> >> >
> >> > FYI -- the patent FS claims was violated is described at
> >> >
> >> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fn
> >> etahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=%226,993,707
> >> +B2%22&OS=
> >> >
> >> > I'm amazed that FS thought its placemarker feature was innovative
> >> > enough
> >> > to patent. This seems like an example of taking advantage of the
> >> > magical
> >> > nature of assistive technology to the uninformed, and then trying to
> >> > leverage it in questionable trade practices for corporate gain. The
> >> > fact
> >> > that GW was never notified of the concern while its product has been in
> >> > beta with public demos strongly suggests that the aim is to damage GW
> >> > economically, not actually to protect intellectual property.
> >> >
> >> > What do others think?
> >> >
> >> > Jamal
> >> > On
> >> > Fri, 25 Jul
> >> > 2008, Ken Perry wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:43:30 -0700
> >> > > From: Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I say let them fight and while they are fighting I hope Saratek is
> >> coding.
> >> > >
> >> > > Ken
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared
> >> > > Wright
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:58 PM
> >> > > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi James, Worked here just now, so I'm not sure what's at fault. The
> >> long
> >> > > and short is that Freedom claims GW Micro's implementation of webpage
> >> > > placemarkers in Window Eyes 7 violates their patint on, I guess,
> >> > > being
> >> able
> >> > > to have placemarkers on a webpage. They filed litigation today.
> >> > >
> >> > > Jared
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Jared
> >> > >
> >> > > James Panes wrote:
> >> > > > Hi Guys,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Just thought I would let you know that this page is not available.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Did FS lawyers have something to do with this?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Regards,
> >> > > > Jim
> >> > > > jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > "Everything is easy when you know how."
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > From: "Jared Wright" <wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:53 PM
> >> > > > Subject: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > http://www.gwmicro.com/blog/index.php/all/2008/07/24/do_companies_real
> >> > > > ly_compete_on_who_has_t
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Read it and weep, at least if seeing screen readers compete on
> >> > > > their
> >> > > > functionality for all our general betterment is at all appealing to
> >> you.
> >> > > > Jared
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
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