Yes I use the num pad when I need to type many numbers, but I don't let the num pad on, because I also use the num pad when I want to route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor.
It is harder to route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor without using the numpad insert, but if there were another method than that, I would have chosen it.
I also don't like to let the num pad on, because I can't turn it off when I use a console aplication like SecureCRT, and when I use a console, I need to route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor pretty often.
Octavian----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:20 PM Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
Thanks for explaining -- that helps me understand your preferences. I had wondered whether you liked to have NumLock on for accounting type operations instead. I think Homer Layout could be modified to toggle extended rather than Numpad keys, though I realize that may be more work than interests you if you are generally satisfied with JAWS. Jamal On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Octavian Rasnita wrote:Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:58:14 +0300 From: Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again You won't have any problems because you won't steal Freedom Scientific's clients.Sun probably won't have problems either, not only because they are too big, but because at least for the moment they are not an important competitor forFS. FS doesn't care for their ideas or for how much effort they put in theirproducts, but they care only about money, because this is the main scope ofany company. Octavian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 6:23 PM Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again > Good ideas, Jim. I wonder if I'm also at risk for being sued for > emulating the JAWS keyboard interface with my Homer Layout script! > > Jamal > On > Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Jim Dunleavy wrote: > >> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:16:52 +0100 >> From: Jim Dunleavy <jim.dunleavy@xxxxxx> >> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again >> >> Hi Jamal, >> >> I wonder if Sun Microsystems is also at risk of being sued >> over Orca's bookmarks feature. >> We should try to get as much bad publicity as possible for FS. >> Maybe Groklaw would cover the story? >> Groklaw has helped on previous occasions to find prior art in >> cases where products bases on free software have been attacked,>> Barracuda being sued by Trend Micro over ClamAV being a notable >> example.>> It seems the point of software patents is not to protect innovation, >> but is about a much dirtier game altogether. >> I wasn't at all amazed by this. >> >> --Jim >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 12:21 PM >> Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again >> >> >> > Hi Ken, >> > I suspect you were being tongue in cheeck (and I love your sense of >> > humor!). Although legal fights can be entertaining, I don't see how >> > this>> > is in the interest of blind people, forcing a company to spend money >> > on>> > defending against litigation rather than on R&D to improve access to >> > mainstream software. >> > >> > FYI -- the patent FS claims was violated is described at >> > >> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fn >> etahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=%226,993,707 >> +B2%22&OS= >> > >> > I'm amazed that FS thought its placemarker feature was innovative >> > enough >> > to patent. This seems like an example of taking advantage of the >> > magical >> > nature of assistive technology to the uninformed, and then trying to >> > leverage it in questionable trade practices for corporate gain. The >> > fact>> > that GW was never notified of the concern while its product has been >> > in >> > beta with public demos strongly suggests that the aim is to damage >> > GW>> > economically, not actually to protect intellectual property. >> > >> > What do others think? >> > >> > Jamal >> > On >> > Fri, 25 Jul >> > 2008, Ken Perry wrote: >> > >> > > Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:43:30 -0700 >> > > From: Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > > Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > I say let them fight and while they are fighting I hope Saratek is >> coding. >> > > >> > > Ken >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared >> > > Wright >> > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:58 PM >> > > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again >> > >>> > > Hi James, Worked here just now, so I'm not sure what's at fault. >> > > The>> long>> > > and short is that Freedom claims GW Micro's implementation of >> > > webpage>> > > placemarkers in Window Eyes 7 violates their patint on, I guess, >> > > being >> able >> > > to have placemarkers on a webpage. They filed litigation today. >> > > >> > > Jared >> > > >> > > >> > > Jared >> > > >> > > James Panes wrote: >> > > > Hi Guys, >> > > >>> > > > Just thought I would let you know that this page is not >> > > > available.>> > > > >> > > > Did FS lawyers have something to do with this? >> > > > >> > > > Regards, >> > > > Jim >> > > > jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx >> > > > jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > > "Everything is easy when you know how." >> > > > >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > From: "Jared Wright" <wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx> >> > > > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:53 PM >> > > > Subject: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > http://www.gwmicro.com/blog/index.php/all/2008/07/24/do_companies_real >> > > > ly_compete_on_who_has_t >> > > > >> > > > Read it and weep, at least if seeing screen readers compete on >> > > > their>> > > > functionality for all our general betterment is at all appealing >> > > > to>> you. >> > > > Jared >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > __________ >> > > > View the list's information and change your settings at >> > > > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> > > > >> > > > __________ >> > > > View the list's information and change your settings at >> > > > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > __________ >> > > View the list's information and change your settings at >> > > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> > > >> > > __________ >> > > View the list's information and change your settings at >> > > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> > > >> > __________ >> > View the list's information and change your settings at >> > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> > >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> "Information in this email (including attachments) is confidential. >> It is intended for receipt and consideration only by the intended >> recipient. >> If you are not an addressee or intended recipient, any use, >> dissemination,>> distribution, disclosure, publication or copying of information >> contained>> in>> this email is strictly prohibited. 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