Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again

  • From: Jim Dunleavy <jim.dunleavy@xxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:58:43 +0100

Hi Jamal,

You're only at risk if you've lots of money.

--Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again


> Good ideas, Jim.  I wonder if I'm also at risk for being sued for
> emulating the JAWS keyboard interface with my Homer Layout script!
>
> Jamal
> On
> Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Jim Dunleavy wrote:
>
> > Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:16:52 +0100
> > From: Jim Dunleavy <jim.dunleavy@xxxxxx>
> > Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
> >
> > Hi Jamal,
> >
> > I wonder if Sun Microsystems is also at risk of being sued
> > over Orca's bookmarks feature.
> > We should try to get as much bad publicity as possible for FS.
> > Maybe Groklaw would cover the story?
> > Groklaw has helped on previous occasions to find prior art in
> > cases where products bases on free software have been attacked,
> > Barracuda being sued by Trend Micro over ClamAV being a notable example.
> > It seems the point of software patents is not to protect innovation,
> > but is about a much dirtier game altogether.
> > I wasn't at all amazed by this.
> >
> > --Jim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 12:21 PM
> > Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
> >
> >
> > > Hi Ken,
> > > I suspect you were being tongue in cheeck (and I love your sense of
> > > humor!).  Although legal fights can be entertaining, I don't see how
this
> > > is in the interest of blind people, forcing a company to spend money
on
> > > defending against litigation rather than on R&D to improve access to
> > > mainstream software.
> > >
> > > FYI -- the patent FS claims was violated is described at
> > >
> >
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fn
> >
etahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=%226,993,707
> > +B2%22&OS=
> > >
> > > I'm amazed that FS thought its placemarker feature was innovative
enough
> > > to patent.  This seems like an example of taking advantage of the
magical
> > > nature of assistive technology to the uninformed, and then trying to
> > > leverage it in questionable trade practices for corporate gain.  The
fact
> > > that GW was never notified of the concern while its product has been
in
> > > beta with public demos strongly suggests that the aim is to damage GW
> > > economically, not actually to protect intellectual property.
> > >
> > > What do others think?
> > >
> > > Jamal
> > >  On
> > > Fri, 25 Jul
> > > 2008, Ken Perry wrote:
> > >
> > > > Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:43:30 -0700
> > > > From: Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I say let them fight and while they are fighting I hope Saratek is
> > coding.
> > > >
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared
Wright
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:58 PM
> > > > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
> > > >
> > > > Hi James, Worked here just now, so I'm not sure what's at fault. The
> > long
> > > > and short is that Freedom claims GW Micro's implementation of
webpage
> > > > placemarkers in Window Eyes 7 violates their patint on, I guess,
being
> > able
> > > > to have placemarkers on a webpage. They  filed litigation today.
> > > >
> > > > Jared
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jared
> > > >
> > > > James Panes wrote:
> > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > >
> > > > > Just thought I would let you know that this page is not available.
> > > > >
> > > > > Did FS lawyers have something to do with this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Jim
> > > > > jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > > jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > "Everything is easy when you know how."
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Jared Wright" <wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:53 PM
> > > > > Subject: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
http://www.gwmicro.com/blog/index.php/all/2008/07/24/do_companies_real
> > > > > ly_compete_on_who_has_t
> > > > >
> > > > > Read it and weep, at least if seeing screen readers compete on
their
> > > > > functionality for all our general betterment is at all appealing
to
> > you.
> > > > > Jared
> > > > >
> > > > >
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