Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again

  • From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:58:14 +0300

You won't have any problems because you won't steal Freedom Scientific's clients. Sun probably won't have problems either, not only because they are too big, but because at least for the moment they are not an important competitor for FS.


FS doesn't care for their ideas or for how much effort they put in their products, but they care only about money, because this is the main scope of any company.

Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again


Good ideas, Jim.  I wonder if I'm also at risk for being sued for
emulating the JAWS keyboard interface with my Homer Layout script!

Jamal
On
Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Jim Dunleavy wrote:

Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:16:52 +0100
From: Jim Dunleavy <jim.dunleavy@xxxxxx>
Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again

Hi Jamal,

I wonder if Sun Microsystems is also at risk of being sued
over Orca's bookmarks feature.
We should try to get as much bad publicity as possible for FS.
Maybe Groklaw would cover the story?
Groklaw has helped on previous occasions to find prior art in
cases where products bases on free software have been attacked,
Barracuda being sued by Trend Micro over ClamAV being a notable example.
It seems the point of software patents is not to protect innovation,
but is about a much dirtier game altogether.
I wasn't at all amazed by this.

--Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 12:21 PM
Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again


> Hi Ken,
> I suspect you were being tongue in cheeck (and I love your sense of
> humor!). Although legal fights can be entertaining, I don't see how > this
> is in the interest of blind people, forcing a company to spend money on
> defending against litigation rather than on R&D to improve access to
> mainstream software.
>
> FYI -- the patent FS claims was violated is described at
>
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fn
etahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=%226,993,707
+B2%22&OS=
>
> I'm amazed that FS thought its placemarker feature was innovative > enough > to patent. This seems like an example of taking advantage of the > magical
> nature of assistive technology to the uninformed, and then trying to
> leverage it in questionable trade practices for corporate gain. The > fact
> that GW was never notified of the concern while its product has been in
> beta with public demos strongly suggests that the aim is to damage GW
> economically, not actually to protect intellectual property.
>
> What do others think?
>
> Jamal
>  On
> Fri, 25 Jul
> 2008, Ken Perry wrote:
>
> > Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:43:30 -0700
> > From: Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
> >
> >
> >
> > I say let them fight and while they are fighting I hope Saratek is
coding.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared > > Wright
> > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:58 PM
> > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
> >
> > Hi James, Worked here just now, so I'm not sure what's at fault. The
long
> > and short is that Freedom claims GW Micro's implementation of webpage
> > placemarkers in Window Eyes 7 violates their patint on, I guess, > > being
able
> > to have placemarkers on a webpage. They  filed litigation today.
> >
> > Jared
> >
> >
> > Jared
> >
> > James Panes wrote:
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > > Just thought I would let you know that this page is not available.
> > >
> > > Did FS lawyers have something to do with this?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Jim
> > > jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx
> > > jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > "Everything is easy when you know how."
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jared Wright" <wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:53 PM
> > > Subject: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.gwmicro.com/blog/index.php/all/2008/07/24/do_companies_real
> > > ly_compete_on_who_has_t
> > >
> > > Read it and weep, at least if seeing screen readers compete on > > > their
> > > functionality for all our general betterment is at all appealing to
you.
> > > Jared
> > >
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