Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
- From: Trouble <trouble1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:51:13 -0400
Well your partially right. If they did care about there users it
would be a big improvement, because most of them are not the buyers.
And the buyers are what any company listens too. Sense Ted sold the
company. All it has thought about was money. many bugs still exist
from 4.0 and every version has new bells and whistles with even more bugs.
i don't see why they are so worried about the scripting, sense they
have such crappy documentation on there own scripting language. But
then the competition can use any language and there is a world of
documentation for it out here on the net.
Rats, I think I just gave away the secret why the other guy cares
about its users enough to at least give them documentation on the
product. that right they always did, and jaws gives us what, because
no one uses it or most of there questions on other list would be answered!
Its not apples and oranges now people. its survival of the or
intimidation of the costly with us the user caught in the middle.
At 07:08 AM 7/27/2008, you wrote:
Hi Jamal,
Sad to say, I believe that the only clear winners in this law suit are the
lawyers.
It would appear that the purpose of this lawsuit is not to protect FS
interests, but to suppress fair competition. It's not about the place marker
patent, it's about trying to stop the release of another screen reader that
has scripting capabilities.
My opinion on the matter is that FS better get off their collective buts and
fix the problems with their own product rather than trying to eliminate the
competition.
I hope that FS monitors this group because they have lots of their customers
really upset with this kind of attitude.
Regards,
Jim
jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx
jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx
"Everything is easy when you know how."
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 7:21 AM
Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
Hi Ken,
I suspect you were being tongue in cheeck (and I love your sense of
humor!). Although legal fights can be entertaining, I don't see how this
is in the interest of blind people, forcing a company to spend money on
defending against litigation rather than on R&D to improve access to
mainstream software.
FYI -- the patent FS claims was violated is described at
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=%226,993,707+B2%22&OS=
I'm amazed that FS thought its placemarker feature was innovative enough
to patent. This seems like an example of taking advantage of the magical
nature of assistive technology to the uninformed, and then trying to
leverage it in questionable trade practices for corporate gain. The fact
that GW was never notified of the concern while its product has been in
beta with public demos strongly suggests that the aim is to damage GW
economically, not actually to protect intellectual property.
What do others think?
Jamal
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Hi Jamal, Sad to say, I believe that the only clear winners in this law suit are the lawyers. It would appear that the purpose of this lawsuit is not to protect FS interests, but to suppress fair competition. It's not about the place marker patent, it's about trying to stop the release of another screen reader that has scripting capabilities. My opinion on the matter is that FS better get off their collective buts and fix the problems with their own product rather than trying to eliminate the competition. I hope that FS monitors this group because they have lots of their customers really upset with this kind of attitude. Regards, Jim jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx "Everything is easy when you know how." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 7:21 AM Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again Hi Ken, I suspect you were being tongue in cheeck (and I love your sense of humor!). Although legal fights can be entertaining, I don't see how this is in the interest of blind people, forcing a company to spend money on defending against litigation rather than on R&D to improve access to mainstream software. FYI -- the patent FS claims was violated is described at http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=%226,993,707+B2%22&OS= I'm amazed that FS thought its placemarker feature was innovative enough to patent. This seems like an example of taking advantage of the magical nature of assistive technology to the uninformed, and then trying to leverage it in questionable trade practices for corporate gain. The fact that GW was never notified of the concern while its product has been in beta with public demos strongly suggests that the aim is to damage GW economically, not actually to protect intellectual property. What do others think? Jamal __________ View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3301 (20080727) __________
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