RE: Cross Platform Audio Game Engine

  • From: "Homme, James" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 15:17:33 -0500

Hi,
OK. That's cool. Didn't know that.

Jim

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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 2:35 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Cross Platform Audio Game Engine

a generic set of sounds? It's up to the user to find sounds and 
background music. 3-d engines don't ship with a generic set of images. 
The game is just a library, through which you can accomplish game 
creation a lot easier.
On 1/12/2011 12:25 PM, Homme, James wrote:
> Hi,
> You'd have to come up with a generic set of sounds for the engine associated 
> with stuff you do in games.
>
> Jim
>
> Jim Homme,
> Usability Services,
> Phone: 412-544-1810. Skype: jim.homme
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 12:37 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Cross Platform Audio Game Engine
>
> I've started a project like this, which is just in it's early
> development stages. What I aimed to do was provide a simple setup for
> someone to use, use Lua (as it's quicker than Python) for the scripting
> language, and make it free, and/or possibly open source. There's one
> that David Greenwood of GMA wrote, but from what I understand he wants a
> few thousand for it. The goal with my engine is three-fold: First, I
> want to be able to make a bit of cash if someone sells the game. Say, $5
> per game. Second, if someone would like to create a free game, they are
> free to do so. Last, I want to make this easy to use with good complete
> concise documentation. I don't know of any open source game engines for
> accessibility, you could use something that wasn't so big on 3-d
> rendering but had a good audio setup for something like this,
> accessibility is just audio after all, and there doesn't need to be
> anything special to make a game accessible that a decent engine couldn't
> do. There is also XNA with C#, if you like c#. I don't mind it so much,
> I've always wanted to get around to writing my own archiver for it
> though, since it only plays WMA files (and those are kind of big). So, I
> hope some of this rambling helped.
> On 1/12/2011 10:15 AM, Lex wrote:
>> Hi Storm,
>>
>> 12.01.2011 18:32, Storm Dragon пишет:
>>> I have searched for this on Google but not really found what I am
>>> looking for.
>> I am also interested in the topic, so I searched something like "3d
>> game engine architecture" and found some books on the subject to read:
>> http://www.amazon.com/Game-Engine-Architecture-Applications-ebook/dp/B001C4QKD4
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Engine-Architecture-Charles-Development/dp/1584504730
>>
>>
>> And lots of books on the subject is here:
>> http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4621536/Game_Design_eBooks_Pack
>>
>> I dreamed about creating a game engine  for audio games from the
>> beginning of my programmer story, since I started to learn
>> programming. I made a couple of attempts but newer finished my work
>> because of different reasons such as change of major language (from
>> Delphi to C++), lack of time, etc. Finally, I decided that such a task
>> is almost impossible to achieve by one person with limited time
>> resources (I am taking a degree at the university on software
>> engineering). Last months my interest on the subject has even
>> increased. Now I am researching different connected topics (like how
>> to bind C++ code to python nicely) etc. During my previous attempts to
>> build an engine I have learned a lot and I hope that one day I will be
>> able to finish my work.
>>> I guess my question is, what is involved in a game engine?
>>> I assume it makes writing games easier, and it is based off already
>>> existing programming languages with functions and/or objects to make
>>> game creation easier.
>> Yes. Game engine consists of several subsystems (sound, events, input,
>> physics, network, scripting - to name some of them) and some
>> abstraction which connects all of that together (to make it an engine,
>> not only a package of libraries). The last part is, IMO, the most
>> important: there exist a lot of libraries helping in game creation
>> which can help to develop audio games, but there isn't some layer
>> which presents all that stuff in way, which allows end-developer to
>> concentrate on the game logic, instead of problems like "how to move
>> my sounds when the object moves" or "how to bind keys/joystick/mouse
>> to my functions", "how to invent a
>> yet-another-game-saving-restoring-feature" etc.
>>> I know there are several audio game companies out
>>> there, and in an attempt to get more of them to do cross platform work,
>>> I was considering starting work on a game engine.
>> Consider joining me and collaborate on this. My target language is C++
>> (for the core of the engine) and python for scripting.
>>> I guess pygame is a game engine,
>> I believe that pygame is a set of libraries, not an engine.
>>> but it is mainly designed for
>>> sighted play. So if I wrote an engine could I build it using pygame as
>>> the backbone, and just make it easier to add sound generating objects?
>> I don't think that will be enough.
>>> Would it be better to do some platform checking and use openal in *nux
>>> and directx in Windows?
>> starting from vista, DirectX no more supports hardware accelerated
>> sound, leaving one only with openal as a wide-accessible alternative
>> for using hardware sound.
>>> One thing that would be really awesome is to
>>> make it easy to make graphical games with accessibility. My ultimate
>>> dream is to have games that are accessible for everyone, not just blind
>>> or just sighted users.
>> Then you might look at some existing open-source graphic game engines
>> and extend one of them to help developing accessible games.
>>
>>
>> Lex
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