Thanks DA ( David right? ) My printer seemed better after I did what Re Na suggested but then it bogged down again so I unistalled and installed again and it is working perfect. Next time ( I'm sure there will be a next time ) I'll know just what to do. Thanks again, Pen Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at http://www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at http://www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://pchelpers.5er.com?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.