Mark Schubin wrote: > I, too, eagerly await the commercial introduction of > the one prototype that worked so well in my apartment > 15 months ago, but not everyone lives in a > problematic-multipath environment. I remember you telling me years ago that people from several organizations had come to your apartment to take measurements, but that you could not divulge what they had found. Would have been instructive to see. Since your rabbit ear OTA reception is 100 percent from reflected signal, I have to believe that one big problem with receivers through 3rd generation was their inability to cope with pre-echo. If the receiver can't handle pre-echo, it needs a stronger direct path than anything reflected. Ergo, no reception. When you reported on the new Samsung receiver initially, I had not seen the CRC measurements, so I couldn't put that report in perspective. Now that we see that the Samsung measures better than the LG (caveat -- the 2003 measurements of the LG, which might not apply), I have to conclude that in your specific case, further improvements in echo tolerance might not help. If antenna placement away from the window doesn't work for the Samsung, when it did work for LG prototype, then my guess is that IM distortion products in the tuner are eating into the C/N margin. So while the C/N margin is exceeded with a window placement of the antenna, it's not exceeded when the signal (including multipath) becomes a little weaker away from the window. If my guess is right, what I don't comprehend is why receiver makers don't use the very best front ends in their initial attempts. And then attempt cutting corners only after they have done the obvious as well as possible. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.