Bob Miller wrote: > No Bert not digital TV, 8-VSB digital TV. If Verizon works > easily and well using Qualcomm's Mediaflo where 8-VSB fails > then it is not about digital TV at all, it is about the > modulation. > > If Verizon's service or AT&T's service or another one aimed > at larger screens using a COFDM based modulation succeeds > while OTA DTV delivering free HDTV fails or stutters along > at under 3% of households then it may be because of the > modulation. What's frustrating is to have to repeat these points over and over again. Once again, Bob, what do they use in Europe for DTT? COFDM. What is the solution in Europe for situations exactly like you daughter's? Central antenna systems, or at least professionally installed antennas, on top of the apartment building. The solution for FOTA TV, in Europe, is not a dense mesh of small sticks, such as MediaFlo. The tradeoffs for the schemes you keep mentioning, like MediaFlo, are that they require many, many more transmitter towers, even if somehwat smaller ones, than the big stick approach. The MediaFlo you keep trumpeting, for instance, needs 30 medium power (i.e. 50 KW, which are not that small) sticks to cover *less* surface area than 4 big sticks cover now. Can you imagine how much more manpower it takes to run such a plant, compared with 4 big sticks? So, that basically kills FOTA TV, just as easily as cable and DBS does. > That is not what they do seven miles from the transmitter. > Seven miles from the transmitter in a situation where you > can receive up to 17 NTSC signals good enough for audio > and a fuzzy screen that you can make out the video on > would mean that with a COFDM system you would have perfect > reception, no need for an antenna installer. Wrong, Bob. First of all, local stations for me are between 12 and 20 miles distant. They come in with antenna in fireplace. Baltimore stations are over 46 miles. The stronger ones come in reliably with antenna in fireplace. Can you explain any of this? You aren't getting any 17 NTSC stations in your daughter's apartment. Which means, the signal level must be way down. So it's all a question of how much signal strength you get, and also how much echo. The echo tolerance of new ATSC receivers, pay attention, is at least as good as the 16-QAM 2K 1/32 GI in use in the UK. So in terms of that specific strong suit of COFDM, echo tolerance, it's not always as you think it is. Another point is that there's nothing preventing broadcasters from installing gap fillers in Queens, or anywhere else, or low power translators. But they don't, because they PREFER to get people dependent on MVPDs. So it's nothing to do with modulation. It has to do with business models. It has to do with how much effort OTA broadcasters bother to put into their transissions plants, and how much effort consumers and building management are willing to put into reception plants. The typical, ubiquitous solution for difficult locations in Europe, such as tall apartment buildings, *IS NOT* rabbit ears. Even if they have COFDM. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.