[opendtv] Re: Martin: 15% of Stations Face Smaller DTV-Coverage Areas

  • From: Tom Barry <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:50:47 -0400

I would have to pay extra for them (and don't) but my Sprint plan has both Fox News and ABC News mobile available. I do occasionally (rarely) watch the CNN Mobile that comes free with my data plan. It's enough mobile news for me.


Currently available:

<http://www.nextel.com/en/services/power_vision/sprint_tv.shtml>

Though I rarely ever watch local news even from home anyway and prefer the Lehrer report for other news.

And something like local weather I prefer on my browser, mobile or otherwise.

I would probably have to be pinned under a collapsed building or something to want to watch normal prime time network programming on mobile.

- Tom


John Willkie wrote:
Gee, can I watch local news day and date, same time, on a cell phone?  How
about network news?  (No to either.)

John Willkie

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Enviado el: Sunday, September 21, 2008 4:07 PM
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Asunto: [opendtv] Re: Martin: 15% of Stations Face Smaller DTV-Coverage
Areas

One followup. My daughter has a Wii, a Sony Play Station, has two
computers hooked up to the Plasma, watches The Comedy Channel off the
Internet and other things. Uses Hulu or whatever it is called, Netflix
and other things. She asked me to disconnect the antenna from the
Plasma and take it home. I asked her to try it some more herself on
other parts of the fire escape and that I would bring a longer cable
next time. She said no, PLEASE don't bother, WE are not interested.

Going forward everyday us old folks are fading away and young people
are inheriting this world. They are NOT interested in things that have
problems even minor ones. They have been spoiled maybe but I cannot
blame them.

Especially once they see how easy they can get TV on a cell phone and
other mobile devices OTA. 8-VSB OTA has no chance especially since it
has been shoe-horned into a decrepit network plan from the 1940s and
saddled with an inefficient codec.

Bob Miller



On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Bob Miller <robmxa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes like in Queens NY. Just returned from my first visit to my
daughters apartment since she set up the plasma and tried to scan.

With an indoor antenna near the TV she got 3 analog stations. I moved
it around and got 3 another move snagged 7 another 5. All of these had
good audio and video good enough to follow the action but with snow
mostly, off color, some lines and some were unwatchable. I got a
longer cable and put the antenna out the window on the fire escape and
later on top of the outside half of the air conditioner and changed
its direction from away from the city, towards the city, at the
apartment building across from the window and a variation. I had four
chances before it was time to leave.

Got 7, 11, 15 and 17 analog channels all with audio and poor video but
at least 8-9 or 10 would have been watchable in a pinch.

This is a second story apartment maybe 7 miles from the Empire State
Building with no line of sight, no direct line to the city but typical
of at least 35 or 40% of the City of New York's citizens. Actually
could be higher. At least 50% are on the wrong side of the building or
low or behind some other building or in a valley. Yes there are hills,
woods, valleys and other things in New York City.

Trying to buy an LG Vue or Samsung Access cheap on Ebay to try in the
same apartment with AT&T's mobile TV.

Bob Miller



On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 6:32 PM, John Willkie <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
As long as he's talking about far-field reception issues (and not
close-in),
the figure would have been significantly higher with DVB-T.  Remember me
saying over the years that BEFORE DVB-T could be used here, extensive
interference and frequency-planning studies would have to be commenced?

And, all the reports I have seen so far have only talked about distance
reception issues (like adjacent markets).

The real kicker here is: how many stations will lose coverage in their
home
markets?  Remains to be seen ...

John Willkie

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De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En
nombre de Cliff Benham
Enviado el: Sunday, September 21, 2008 2:21 PM
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Asunto: [opendtv] Re: Martin: 15% of Stations Face Smaller DTV-Coverage
Areas

Dale Kelly wrote:
Martin said that perhaps 15% of the nation's TV
stations might have carriage shrink "in a significant way,"
Amazing. Who would have ever thought...


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