One more. Her locations is near Metropolitan Ave and 116th St. in Kew Gardens Queens NYC. Bob Miller On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Bob Miller <robmxa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > One followup. My daughter has a Wii, a Sony Play Station, has two > computers hooked up to the Plasma, watches The Comedy Channel off the > Internet and other things. Uses Hulu or whatever it is called, Netflix > and other things. She asked me to disconnect the antenna from the > Plasma and take it home. I asked her to try it some more herself on > other parts of the fire escape and that I would bring a longer cable > next time. She said no, PLEASE don't bother, WE are not interested. > > Going forward everyday us old folks are fading away and young people > are inheriting this world. They are NOT interested in things that have > problems even minor ones. They have been spoiled maybe but I cannot > blame them. > > Especially once they see how easy they can get TV on a cell phone and > other mobile devices OTA. 8-VSB OTA has no chance especially since it > has been shoe-horned into a decrepit network plan from the 1940s and > saddled with an inefficient codec. > > Bob Miller > > > > On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Bob Miller <robmxa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Yes like in Queens NY. Just returned from my first visit to my >> daughters apartment since she set up the plasma and tried to scan. >> >> With an indoor antenna near the TV she got 3 analog stations. I moved >> it around and got 3 another move snagged 7 another 5. All of these had >> good audio and video good enough to follow the action but with snow >> mostly, off color, some lines and some were unwatchable. I got a >> longer cable and put the antenna out the window on the fire escape and >> later on top of the outside half of the air conditioner and changed >> its direction from away from the city, towards the city, at the >> apartment building across from the window and a variation. I had four >> chances before it was time to leave. >> >> Got 7, 11, 15 and 17 analog channels all with audio and poor video but >> at least 8-9 or 10 would have been watchable in a pinch. >> >> This is a second story apartment maybe 7 miles from the Empire State >> Building with no line of sight, no direct line to the city but typical >> of at least 35 or 40% of the City of New York's citizens. Actually >> could be higher. At least 50% are on the wrong side of the building or >> low or behind some other building or in a valley. Yes there are hills, >> woods, valleys and other things in New York City. >> >> Trying to buy an LG Vue or Samsung Access cheap on Ebay to try in the >> same apartment with AT&T's mobile TV. >> >> Bob Miller >> >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 6:32 PM, John Willkie <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >>> As long as he's talking about far-field reception issues (and not close-in), >>> the figure would have been significantly higher with DVB-T. Remember me >>> saying over the years that BEFORE DVB-T could be used here, extensive >>> interference and frequency-planning studies would have to be commenced? >>> >>> And, all the reports I have seen so far have only talked about distance >>> reception issues (like adjacent markets). >>> >>> The real kicker here is: how many stations will lose coverage in their home >>> markets? Remains to be seen ... >>> >>> John Willkie >>> >>> -----Mensaje original----- >>> De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En >>> nombre de Cliff Benham >>> Enviado el: Sunday, September 21, 2008 2:21 PM >>> Para: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Asunto: [opendtv] Re: Martin: 15% of Stations Face Smaller DTV-Coverage >>> Areas >>> >>> Dale Kelly wrote: >>> Martin said that perhaps 15% of the nation's TV >>>> stations might have carriage shrink "in a significant way," >>> >>> Amazing. Who would have ever thought... >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: >>> >>> - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at >>> FreeLists.org >>> >>> - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word >>> unsubscribe in the subject line. >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: >>> >>> - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at >>> FreeLists.org >>> >>> - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word >>> unsubscribe in the subject line. >>> >>> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.