On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 7:09 AM, John Shutt <shuttj@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > How many "full resolution HD" streams does your data center host? What are > the bitrates, and how many simultaneous unicast streams of these full HD > programs can your data center support? > > We weren't talking about highly compressed "Youtube" streaming, but high > resolution, broadcast quality HD programming. Well, you're missing the point. It's almost like there is this mentality on this thread that you either have postage size Youtube cr*p, or you have 18Mbit HD, and nothing in between. Therefore, internet video will never be viable. That is complete nonsense. In fact I can only laugh at Bert's hypothetical response that follows yours with sizing everything to 18Mbit. I mean come on. 480p AVC can be done at 1.5Mbit. 720p can be done at 4.5Mbit. But hey, if he wants to live in a fantasy world, more power to him. :) Most of our customers who are starting to roll out higher quality streams are doing it at half resolution HD and other non-standard formats -- using the receive device to post-process the content. The barrier is not the datacenter, or the provider of the streams, but rather the last mile to the end user. Quite a few are doing 480p using Flash AVC @ around 1Mbit. We've had some encoder providers testing for a while at around 4.5Mbits 720p using Flash AVC and it looks great. Serving this stuff is not an issue when you have multiple pops - you simply relay the incoming stream to multiple geolocated origin servers and serve unicast requests off edge clusters. There is no reason why the streams could not be bounced into a cable pop and multicast to end users - none of this is rocket science. For VOD the issue becomes even less of a problem since all the client-side players are leaky bucket buffer models. And the thing to bear in mind here is that just a few years ago not even 480p streaming was really possible. Backbone and home bandwidth is multiplying fast, more people are providing and downloading content off the net (Amazon, Netflix, Hulu, etc.), and eventually delivering video over a standard internet connection will just be a non-issue. The only thing keeping it from 'the people' are regulations and paranoid content providers. Think about kids growing up today. They can watch video on the net. How many watch TV? Not much interactivity there. If you ask me, things like traditional OTA will be on the way out in a decade. They may still be around, but people probably won't care. The entire delivery mechanism is just plain antiquated. Cheers Kon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.