Re: [MoAccess] Motif ES USB not working

  • From: "Clarence Griffin" <goldfingas@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:58:30 -0400

It wasn't that good. in my experience. I couldn't get it to work, the
interface was visual and I think it had latency.
 

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From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Gordon Kent
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 4:19 PM
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif ES USB not working


I don't know.  It's kind of obsolete now that Sonar has had an audio
metronome for several years.  I think the guy's name was Greg Norman or
something like that and the program was called ping.  It was cheap,
something like $30 or so.  I honestly never used it much.  Don't forget, you
can create your own audio metronome anyway.  Just load a hi hat or side
stick or whatever into sfz and create a 1 measure pattern of quarter notes,
then just copy and paste it in a bunch of times.  Of course, if you change
tempo you'll need to redo it.
Gord

----- Original Message ----- 
From: D!J!X! <mailto:megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>  
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif ES USB not working

Hey Gord, is this metronome still around?  I'd upgrade to a newer version,
but money is an issue here...and of course the school who bought the copy
won't upgrade it either so i'm screwed...

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 Thanks, D!J!X!
 
 From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Gordon Kent
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:58 PM
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif ES USB not working


There was an audio metronome called ping that was developed by one of the
guys on the sonar beta team, norman something or other.  Back then, I did
actually correspond with him and he did get most of the controls working
within a standard windows dialog box.  But yes, you are certainly encouraged
to upgrade to a newer version of Sonar.
Gord

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Bryan Smart <mailto:bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif ES USB not working

Ooops. Then, you should keep using the MIDI metronome.
 
There are some plug ins that will produce an audio metronome for you, but
they pretty much all suck. Back when I was on Sonar 4, and was trying to
create a softsynth -only setup, I tried out several of those audio metronome
plug ins, but they all had issues. They wouldn't produce a count-in, some
would produce glitchy clicking, others were inaccessible. The audio
metronome in newer versions of Sonar fixed that completely. Best to use MIDI
until you upgrade Sonar.
 
BTW: Its too bad I didn't know that you were stuck on Sonar 3. In August,
Cakewalk was running an upgrade special for customers of earlier versions of
Sonar. You could upgrade any version of Sonar to Sonar 6 for just $79.
 
Bryan
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From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 11:12 PM
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif ES USB not working


Bryan stated:
"Also, you should always use an audio metronome. Using a MIDI metronome is
the old school way of working. It requires that you give up one of your 16
MIDI
channels to serve as the metronome. That isn't a good idea."
What if I'm still using sonar 3, which i really am, so there's no audio
metronom, wouldn't that be the only choice?  Or is there some kind of plugin
that I can use to do that? it's lots of work, give up a channel, give up a
track, etc etc...

Thanks, D!J!X!

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From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 6:51 PM
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif ES USB not working


Rod, you don't want all ports enabled. This could possibly be your problem.
 
Motif port 1 is used for the keyboard, controllers, and for allowing Sonar
to play sounds on the Motif. This is the port that you'd get if you hooked
up the Motif to the computer using a MIDI interface and the basic MIDI
in/out jacks on the back of the Motif.
 
Port 2 is used by the Motif when its working in control surface mode.
 
Port 3 allows you to access another MIDI keyboard or module that is
connected to the MIDI in and out jacks on the back of the Motif. So, in
addition to being able to use the Motif as a MIDI device when it is
connected to the computer over either USB or mLAN, you can also use the
Motif as a single port MIDI interface for another device.
 
On the Motif classic and ES, I think that ports 4, 5, and 6 let you have
direct access to the PLG cards. In this way, it is like each of the PLG
cards are their own separate MIDI module.
 
In Sonar, you should only enable the ports that you need. For example, you'd
never need input from anything other than ports 1 and 2. If you don't have
PLG cards, and don't chain MIDI devices off of the Motif, then only enable
ports 1 and 2 for output.
 
Also, you should always use an audio metronome. Using a MIDI metronome is
the old school way of working. It requires that you give up one of your 16
MIDI channels to serve as the metronome. That isn't a good idea.
 
Bryan
 
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From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Damon Fibraio
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 5:28 PM
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif ES USB not working



Rod, to my knowledge, no. You should be able to just send. On all channels
in a port. Maybe try reinstalling the driver, or do a reset on the motif?

 

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From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 1:21 PM
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif ES USB not working

 

Damon:

 

Thanks for the info. I have done all that, though. I am quite shock as to
why only one port is working when I have done the same for all of the other
ports. That's why I hate configuring these things after a fresh install.

 

May I possibly have to mess with some menus to tell the keyboard to send on
all ports? Anyone know how to do that please if this may be the case?

 

Rod Alcidonis 
Juris Doctor Candidate, 2009.
Roger Williams University School of Law 
10 Metacom Ave., Box: 9003 
Bristol, RI 02809 
Cell: 718-704-4651 
 Home: 01-824-8685 
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----- Original Message ----- 

From: Damon  <mailto:dfibraio@xxxxxxxxxxx> Fibraio 

To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 12:56 PM

Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif ES USB not working

 

OK, did you select the motif as in and out? You have to assign the midi
instrument definition to the midi port, too. Also, make sure your midi
channels are correct and put the motif into song or pattern mode.

 

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From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 12:07 PM
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [MoAccess] Motif ES USB not working

 

Hello guys:

 

I have downloaded the USB driver for the motif es, installed it, but I am
getting no sound. I have also followed the instructions to activate the USB
on the Motif es, but to no avail.

 

The Midi activity is being shown on my taskbar. 

 

I have also installed and configured my Instrument definition for the Motif
es.

 

I noticed that in the midi devices dialog box, there is only one option to
select the motif es8. As for input, it appears that it only goes to motif
1-4. Could it be that I am not receiving input sound? I was under the
assumption that by selecting the motif es only, as the only option given, it
would work for both input and output.

 

Please help;  I desperately want to get this fix!

 

Thanks.

 

Rod Alcidonis 
Juris Doctor Candidate, 2009.
Roger Williams University School of Law 
10 Metacom Ave., Box: 9003 
Bristol, RI 02809 
Cell: 718-704-4651 
 Home: 01-824-8685 
Roddj12@xxxxxxxxxxx

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