O wow!!! That's crazy. Well the school bought this copy and they refuse to buy any upgrades as I'm no longer there and won't give me the serial number or anything, so what can i do...One of these days I'll make about 600 bucks and buy pro 6 or whatever is going for that price... D!J!X! _____ From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 10:19 AM To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif ES USB not working Ooops. Then, you should keep using the MIDI metronome. There are some plug ins that will produce an audio metronome for you, but they pretty much all suck. Back when I was on Sonar 4, and was trying to create a softsynth -only setup, I tried out several of those audio metronome plug ins, but they all had issues. They wouldn't produce a count-in, some would produce glitchy clicking, others were inaccessible. The audio metronome in newer versions of Sonar fixed that completely. Best to use MIDI until you upgrade Sonar. BTW: Its too bad I didn't know that you were stuck on Sonar 3. In August, Cakewalk was running an upgrade special for customers of earlier versions of Sonar. You could upgrade any version of Sonar to Sonar 6 for just $79. Bryan _____ From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of D!J!X! Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 11:12 PM To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif ES USB not working Bryan stated: "Also, you should always use an audio metronome. Using a MIDI metronome is the old school way of working. It requires that you give up one of your 16 MIDI channels to serve as the metronome. That isn't a good idea." What if I'm still using sonar 3, which i really am, so there's no audio metronom, wouldn't that be the only choice? Or is there some kind of plugin that I can use to do that? it's lots of work, give up a channel, give up a track, etc etc... Thanks, D!J!X! _____ From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 6:51 PM To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif ES USB not working Rod, you don't want all ports enabled. This could possibly be your problem. Motif port 1 is used for the keyboard, controllers, and for allowing Sonar to play sounds on the Motif. This is the port that you'd get if you hooked up the Motif to the computer using a MIDI interface and the basic MIDI in/out jacks on the back of the Motif. Port 2 is used by the Motif when its working in control surface mode. Port 3 allows you to access another MIDI keyboard or module that is connected to the MIDI in and out jacks on the back of the Motif. So, in addition to being able to use the Motif as a MIDI device when it is connected to the computer over either USB or mLAN, you can also use the Motif as a single port MIDI interface for another device. On the Motif classic and ES, I think that ports 4, 5, and 6 let you have direct access to the PLG cards. In this way, it is like each of the PLG cards are their own separate MIDI module. In Sonar, you should only enable the ports that you need. For example, you'd never need input from anything other than ports 1 and 2. If you don't have PLG cards, and don't chain MIDI devices off of the Motif, then only enable ports 1 and 2 for output. Also, you should always use an audio metronome. Using a MIDI metronome is the old school way of working. It requires that you give up one of your 16 MIDI channels to serve as the metronome. That isn't a good idea. Bryan _____ From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Damon Fibraio Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 5:28 PM To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif ES USB not working Rod, to my knowledge, no. You should be able to just send. On all channels in a port. Maybe try reinstalling the driver, or do a reset on the motif? -- Damon Fibraio screen names -- aol: dfibraio...msn dfibraio@xxxxxxxxxxxx skype: dfibraio web sites: personal music site: http://www.keyboardguy.com. band: http://www.queenoftheryche.com. Internet Radio station: http://www.nhbradio.com Internet radio show every Wednesday night from 8 to 11 pm eastern From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 1:21 PM To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif ES USB not working Damon: Thanks for the info. I have done all that, though. I am quite shock as to why only one port is working when I have done the same for all of the other ports. That's why I hate configuring these things after a fresh install. May I possibly have to mess with some menus to tell the keyboard to send on all ports? Anyone know how to do that please if this may be the case? Rod Alcidonis Juris Doctor Candidate, 2009. Roger Williams University School of Law 10 Metacom Ave., Box: 9003 Bristol, RI 02809 Cell: 718-704-4651 Home: 01-824-8685 Roddj12@xxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Damon <mailto:dfibraio@xxxxxxxxxxx> Fibraio To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif ES USB not working OK, did you select the motif as in and out? You have to assign the midi instrument definition to the midi port, too. Also, make sure your midi channels are correct and put the motif into song or pattern mode. -- Damon Fibraio screen names -- aol: dfibraio...msn dfibraio@xxxxxxxxxxxx skype: dfibraio web sites: personal music site: http://www.keyboardguy.com. band: http://www.queenoftheryche.com. Internet Radio station: http://www.nhbradio.com Internet radio show every Wednesday night from 8 to 11 pm eastern From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 12:07 PM To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [MoAccess] Motif ES USB not working Hello guys: I have downloaded the USB driver for the motif es, installed it, but I am getting no sound. I have also followed the instructions to activate the USB on the Motif es, but to no avail. The Midi activity is being shown on my taskbar. I have also installed and configured my Instrument definition for the Motif es. I noticed that in the midi devices dialog box, there is only one option to select the motif es8. As for input, it appears that it only goes to motif 1-4. Could it be that I am not receiving input sound? I was under the assumption that by selecting the motif es only, as the only option given, it would work for both input and output. Please help; I desperately want to get this fix! Thanks. Rod Alcidonis Juris Doctor Candidate, 2009. Roger Williams University School of Law 10 Metacom Ave., Box: 9003 Bristol, RI 02809 Cell: 718-704-4651 Home: 01-824-8685 Roddj12@xxxxxxxxxxx