[lit-ideas] Re: The de-islamization of Europe

  • From: "Andreas Ramos" <andreas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:50:51 -0800

So Lawrence is saying that Christianity is correctly understood as "militant Christianity"? And the "militant" isn't a metaphor? Is this what he means?


yrs,
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:18 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The de-islamization of Europe


Ursula:



Most Christians would agree with what I've written.  Only a small minority
believes Christianity is pacifistic and that by reading passages in a
Fundamentalist (Literalist) manner that was never intended by the author.
Your "flight of fancy" assertion assumes (whether or not you know it) that
this minority of Christians has the right interpretation and the majority is
engaged in a false interpretation.



Lawrence



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A fine flight of fancy, Lawrence. I suppose if you're going to both

believe in war and in Christ's teaching, you'd have to be this creative.

Ursula

impressed in North Bay



Lawrence Helm wrote:





Insofar as your Biblical Analysis is concerned, you seem to take a

Literalist or Fundamentalist approach in order to be dismissive of

Christianity. The slapping of the cheek was considered an insult, not

a personal attack. To understand what is being taught by Jesus, you

need to understand the customs and history - or have someone explain

it to you. This is not a pacifistic teaching. Jesus is teaching that

we should not respond angrily to insults. Since Jesus allowed himself

to be insulted far more than any of us is likely to be, shall we take

offense at the insults we receive? Is a servant more important than

his master? We are encouraged to use Jesus as our example, Jesus "Who,

being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something

to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a

servant. . . Phil 2:6-7.





Lawrence






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