[lit-ideas] Re: Max Boot

  • From: "Judith Evans" <judithevans1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 19:21:50 -0000

Lawrence, you fail to answer my claim that your

Condemn
> terrorists and someone is going to condemn you in short order.

is a lie.  Produce evidence or stop lying.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 6:41 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Max Boot


> Oh yes, and how I miss the unsupported one-liners that Judy is
such a master
> of.  Does she produce the evidence that I accuse the other
Leftists of being
> unable to produce?  Does she produce arguments that I accuse
other Leftists
> of being unable to produce?  Does she refrain from the cheap
shots and
> insults that I accuse other Leftists of engaging in?   Well,
judge for
> yourself, new list member.
>
>
>
> Am I lying?  No, of course not.  I am expressing and have
frequently noted
> and expressed irritation that Leftists so swiftly jump to the
defense of our
> enemies, or immediately claim we are just as bad if not worse
than they are,
> or counter our unhappiness with our enemies with a rousing
attack against
> America, its leadership, people who want to defend America,
etc.  If the
> stakes were high enough I could easily go back through the
records and
> produce scores if not hundreds of such examples.
>
>
>
> Now since I am not lying.  Is Judy lying?  In keeping with what
just wrote
> John, I don't know enough to know whether she is lying.  She
may not have
> read all the notes.  She may not have read them with sufficient
attention.
> Her eyes may be weakening.  Her attention may be weakening.  I
can think of
> a number of other possibilities.
>
>
>
> Lawrence
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Judith Evans
> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 8:20 AM
> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Max Boot
>
>
>
>  Condemn
>
> > terrorists and someone is going to condemn you in short
order.
>
>
>
> You lie, Lawrence.  I'd not bother to say so -- we are, now,
accustomed to
> such travesty -- were it not that a new list member might think
you speak
> the truth.
>
>
>
> Judy Evans, Cardiff, UK
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>
> From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:01 AM
>
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Max Boot
>
>
>
>
>
> > Eric:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Notice how quickly any expressions hostile to Militant Islam,
>
> Terrorism or
>
> > any variation thereof are quickly turned back on the writer.
>
> Condemn
>
> > terrorists and someone is going to condemn you in short
order.
>
> You'll be a
>
> > wild man, a fascist, just as bad as the terrorist or some
>
> combination
>
> > thereof.  The fact that Leftists can't resist doing that,
can't
>
> resist
>
> > attacking those interested in defending this country, is far
>
> more
>
> > interesting (and potentially alarming - until we realize they
>
> are but a
>
> > minority in the US - if not in Europe) than anything
pertaining
>
> to the
>
> > actual defense. A majority in this nation will insist that
this
>
> country be
>
> > defended, but we here on Lit-Ideas are a backwater in which
>
> hostile
>
> > intelligences snap and bite at those who believe in fighting
>
> against our
>
> > enemies.  How do you account for that?  I for one never get
>
> used to it.
>
> > What they say strikes me as being similar to someone who does
>
> something
>
> > really dumb and then does it again and then again.  They draw
>
> attention to
>
> > themselves.  You are shocked and then amazed.  You try to
help
>
> them, but
>
> > they don't want any help and they go off and do it again, and
>
> again, and
>
> > again.  It is like a blind spot or insanity.  One of them
wants
>
> to turn our
>
> > founding fathers into a group of terrorists --  I suppose
such
>
> a
>
> > transformation is intended to make the present terrorists
more
>
> palatable to
>
> > those of us who oppose them.  What sort of intelligence would
>
> assert
>
> > something so loony?  It is amazing.  She wasn't affected by
the
>
> fact that
>
> > the concept didn't exist until it was applied to the French
>
> during their
>
> > revolution which occurred after ours.  Her head was up and
>
> locked and the
>
> > throttles were fully forward.  I don't think she even noticed
>
> what I said.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Now you have been called a Nazi, you who live near the World
>
> Trade Center
>
> > and witnessed the work of the Terrorists are now considered a
>
> Nazi for
>
> > wishing them ill.  Why do these Leftists so quickly attack
>
> those who oppose
>
> > our enemies?  Why do they in effect come to the defense of
our
>
> enemies?  Are
>
> > we experiencing a pandemic of self-destructive behavior?
Might
>
> we become
>
> > infected as well?  Might we one day wake up and hate America
>
> and wish to
>
> > become a Terrorist's toady?  And what is most alarming, we
have
>
> ample
>
> > evidence that the disease is incurable.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > But then the next question to ask is why we, who have yet to
be
>
> infected,
>
> > spend so much time inviting their dumb comments again, and
>
> again, and still
>
> > again.  Perhaps this is a form of symbiosis.  If we could get
>
> them to go to
>
> > an Alcoholics Anonymous for Leftists, perhaps we should seek
>
> out an Allanon.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Lawrence
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>
> > On Behalf Of Eric Yost
>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 6:22 PM
>
> > To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Max Boot
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Joerg: ... over here, someone with your "world-view" would
>
> >
>
> > easily qualify as a neo-Nazi, and be banned from public
>
> >
>
> > life: that's not a "clash of cultures", it's just drawing
>
> >
>
> > the line between civilisation and barbarianism.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Eric: I let this pass too easily, so redux.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Let me get this straight: in modern Germany, if someone
>
> >
>
> > advocated killing active terrorists, they would qualify as
>
> >
>
> > neo-Nazis and be banned from public life? That can't be
>
> >
>
> > right, can it? If that's what you really meant, it's almost
>
> >
>
> > too weird and fascist for a reply ... almost.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > If that's the case, you Germans are totally [insert
>
> >
>
> > Anglicism for traditional expletive] bonked. Might as well
>
> >
>
> > just lubricate yourself and bend over for any and all
>
> >
>
> > militant killer scum who threaten you. That's so sad. A
>
> >
>
> > whimpering end. Being someone's jailhouse punk in the name
>
> >
>
> > of civilization. Es ist wirklich traurig.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > If I misconstrued what you wrote, and it seems certain I
>
> >
>
> > misconstrued, you should correct me. What, exactly, in your
>
> >
>
> > opinion, qualifies as neo-Nazi about my world view? Or are
>
> >
>
> > you the Hammer seeing me as a Nagel?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
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