Lawrence, you fail to answer my claim that your Condemn > terrorists and someone is going to condemn you in short order. is a lie. Produce evidence or stop lying. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 6:41 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Max Boot > Oh yes, and how I miss the unsupported one-liners that Judy is such a master > of. Does she produce the evidence that I accuse the other Leftists of being > unable to produce? Does she produce arguments that I accuse other Leftists > of being unable to produce? Does she refrain from the cheap shots and > insults that I accuse other Leftists of engaging in? Well, judge for > yourself, new list member. > > > > Am I lying? No, of course not. I am expressing and have frequently noted > and expressed irritation that Leftists so swiftly jump to the defense of our > enemies, or immediately claim we are just as bad if not worse than they are, > or counter our unhappiness with our enemies with a rousing attack against > America, its leadership, people who want to defend America, etc. If the > stakes were high enough I could easily go back through the records and > produce scores if not hundreds of such examples. > > > > Now since I am not lying. Is Judy lying? In keeping with what just wrote > John, I don't know enough to know whether she is lying. She may not have > read all the notes. She may not have read them with sufficient attention. > Her eyes may be weakening. Her attention may be weakening. I can think of > a number of other possibilities. > > > > Lawrence > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Judith Evans > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 8:20 AM > To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Max Boot > > > > Condemn > > > terrorists and someone is going to condemn you in short order. > > > > You lie, Lawrence. I'd not bother to say so -- we are, now, accustomed to > such travesty -- were it not that a new list member might think you speak > the truth. > > > > Judy Evans, Cardiff, UK > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:01 AM > > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Max Boot > > > > > > > Eric: > > > > > > > > > > > > Notice how quickly any expressions hostile to Militant Islam, > > Terrorism or > > > any variation thereof are quickly turned back on the writer. > > Condemn > > > terrorists and someone is going to condemn you in short order. > > You'll be a > > > wild man, a fascist, just as bad as the terrorist or some > > combination > > > thereof. The fact that Leftists can't resist doing that, can't > > resist > > > attacking those interested in defending this country, is far > > more > > > interesting (and potentially alarming - until we realize they > > are but a > > > minority in the US - if not in Europe) than anything pertaining > > to the > > > actual defense. A majority in this nation will insist that this > > country be > > > defended, but we here on Lit-Ideas are a backwater in which > > hostile > > > intelligences snap and bite at those who believe in fighting > > against our > > > enemies. How do you account for that? I for one never get > > used to it. > > > What they say strikes me as being similar to someone who does > > something > > > really dumb and then does it again and then again. They draw > > attention to > > > themselves. You are shocked and then amazed. You try to help > > them, but > > > they don't want any help and they go off and do it again, and > > again, and > > > again. It is like a blind spot or insanity. One of them wants > > to turn our > > > founding fathers into a group of terrorists -- I suppose such > > a > > > transformation is intended to make the present terrorists more > > palatable to > > > those of us who oppose them. What sort of intelligence would > > assert > > > something so loony? It is amazing. She wasn't affected by the > > fact that > > > the concept didn't exist until it was applied to the French > > during their > > > revolution which occurred after ours. Her head was up and > > locked and the > > > throttles were fully forward. I don't think she even noticed > > what I said. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now you have been called a Nazi, you who live near the World > > Trade Center > > > and witnessed the work of the Terrorists are now considered a > > Nazi for > > > wishing them ill. Why do these Leftists so quickly attack > > those who oppose > > > our enemies? Why do they in effect come to the defense of our > > enemies? Are > > > we experiencing a pandemic of self-destructive behavior? Might > > we become > > > infected as well? Might we one day wake up and hate America > > and wish to > > > become a Terrorist's toady? And what is most alarming, we have > > ample > > > evidence that the disease is incurable. > > > > > > > > > > > > But then the next question to ask is why we, who have yet to be > > infected, > > > spend so much time inviting their dumb comments again, and > > again, and still > > > again. Perhaps this is a form of symbiosis. If we could get > > them to go to > > > an Alcoholics Anonymous for Leftists, perhaps we should seek > > out an Allanon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lawrence > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > On Behalf Of Eric Yost > > > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 6:22 PM > > > To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Max Boot > > > > > > > > > > > > Joerg: ... over here, someone with your "world-view" would > > > > > > easily qualify as a neo-Nazi, and be banned from public > > > > > > life: that's not a "clash of cultures", it's just drawing > > > > > > the line between civilisation and barbarianism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric: I let this pass too easily, so redux. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me get this straight: in modern Germany, if someone > > > > > > advocated killing active terrorists, they would qualify as > > > > > > neo-Nazis and be banned from public life? That can't be > > > > > > right, can it? If that's what you really meant, it's almost > > > > > > too weird and fascist for a reply ... almost. > > > > > > > > > > > > If that's the case, you Germans are totally [insert > > > > > > Anglicism for traditional expletive] bonked. Might as well > > > > > > just lubricate yourself and bend over for any and all > > > > > > militant killer scum who threaten you. That's so sad. A > > > > > > whimpering end. Being someone's jailhouse punk in the name > > > > > > of civilization. Es ist wirklich traurig. > > > > > > > > > > > > If I misconstrued what you wrote, and it seems certain I > > > > > > misconstrued, you should correct me. What, exactly, in your > > > > > > opinion, qualifies as neo-Nazi about my world view? Or are > > > > > > you the Hammer seeing me as a Nagel? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- --- > > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html