[lit-ideas] Re: Max Boot
- From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 10:41:59 -0800
Oh yes, and how I miss the unsupported one-liners that Judy is such a master
of. Does she produce the evidence that I accuse the other Leftists of being
unable to produce? Does she produce arguments that I accuse other Leftists
of being unable to produce? Does she refrain from the cheap shots and
insults that I accuse other Leftists of engaging in? Well, judge for
yourself, new list member.
Am I lying? No, of course not. I am expressing and have frequently noted
and expressed irritation that Leftists so swiftly jump to the defense of our
enemies, or immediately claim we are just as bad if not worse than they are,
or counter our unhappiness with our enemies with a rousing attack against
America, its leadership, people who want to defend America, etc. If the
stakes were high enough I could easily go back through the records and
produce scores if not hundreds of such examples.
Now since I am not lying. Is Judy lying? In keeping with what just wrote
John, I don't know enough to know whether she is lying. She may not have
read all the notes. She may not have read them with sufficient attention.
Her eyes may be weakening. Her attention may be weakening. I can think of
a number of other possibilities.
Lawrence
-----Original Message-----
From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Judith Evans
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 8:20 AM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Max Boot
Condemn
> terrorists and someone is going to condemn you in short order.
You lie, Lawrence. I'd not bother to say so -- we are, now, accustomed to
such travesty -- were it not that a new list member might think you speak
the truth.
Judy Evans, Cardiff, UK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:01 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Max Boot
> Eric:
>
>
>
> Notice how quickly any expressions hostile to Militant Islam,
Terrorism or
> any variation thereof are quickly turned back on the writer.
Condemn
> terrorists and someone is going to condemn you in short order.
You'll be a
> wild man, a fascist, just as bad as the terrorist or some
combination
> thereof. The fact that Leftists can't resist doing that, can't
resist
> attacking those interested in defending this country, is far
more
> interesting (and potentially alarming - until we realize they
are but a
> minority in the US - if not in Europe) than anything pertaining
to the
> actual defense. A majority in this nation will insist that this
country be
> defended, but we here on Lit-Ideas are a backwater in which
hostile
> intelligences snap and bite at those who believe in fighting
against our
> enemies. How do you account for that? I for one never get
used to it.
> What they say strikes me as being similar to someone who does
something
> really dumb and then does it again and then again. They draw
attention to
> themselves. You are shocked and then amazed. You try to help
them, but
> they don't want any help and they go off and do it again, and
again, and
> again. It is like a blind spot or insanity. One of them wants
to turn our
> founding fathers into a group of terrorists -- I suppose such
a
> transformation is intended to make the present terrorists more
palatable to
> those of us who oppose them. What sort of intelligence would
assert
> something so loony? It is amazing. She wasn't affected by the
fact that
> the concept didn't exist until it was applied to the French
during their
> revolution which occurred after ours. Her head was up and
locked and the
> throttles were fully forward. I don't think she even noticed
what I said.
>
>
>
> Now you have been called a Nazi, you who live near the World
Trade Center
> and witnessed the work of the Terrorists are now considered a
Nazi for
> wishing them ill. Why do these Leftists so quickly attack
those who oppose
> our enemies? Why do they in effect come to the defense of our
enemies? Are
> we experiencing a pandemic of self-destructive behavior? Might
we become
> infected as well? Might we one day wake up and hate America
and wish to
> become a Terrorist's toady? And what is most alarming, we have
ample
> evidence that the disease is incurable.
>
>
>
> But then the next question to ask is why we, who have yet to be
infected,
> spend so much time inviting their dumb comments again, and
again, and still
> again. Perhaps this is a form of symbiosis. If we could get
them to go to
> an Alcoholics Anonymous for Leftists, perhaps we should seek
out an Allanon.
>
>
>
>
> Lawrence
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Eric Yost
> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 6:22 PM
> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Max Boot
>
>
>
> Joerg: ... over here, someone with your "world-view" would
>
> easily qualify as a neo-Nazi, and be banned from public
>
> life: that's not a "clash of cultures", it's just drawing
>
> the line between civilisation and barbarianism.
>
>
>
>
>
> Eric: I let this pass too easily, so redux.
>
>
>
> Let me get this straight: in modern Germany, if someone
>
> advocated killing active terrorists, they would qualify as
>
> neo-Nazis and be banned from public life? That can't be
>
> right, can it? If that's what you really meant, it's almost
>
> too weird and fascist for a reply ... almost.
>
>
>
> If that's the case, you Germans are totally [insert
>
> Anglicism for traditional expletive] bonked. Might as well
>
> just lubricate yourself and bend over for any and all
>
> militant killer scum who threaten you. That's so sad. A
>
> whimpering end. Being someone's jailhouse punk in the name
>
> of civilization. Es ist wirklich traurig.
>
>
>
> If I misconstrued what you wrote, and it seems certain I
>
> misconstrued, you should correct me. What, exactly, in your
>
> opinion, qualifies as neo-Nazi about my world view? Or are
>
> you the Hammer seeing me as a Nagel?
>
>
>
>
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