Brian, I think it's important to make the distinction between evil as a description of a person's soul - the supernatural proposition - and evil as an intent - the acts of a person. Many on the left would say that certain motivations are evil in the sense of being far removed from the correct or right action. Nobody, I suspect would willingly denote the supernatural element. And if I'm not familiar with those crazy KosKids, does that mean I'm not a Leftist? Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 3:37 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Max Boot Simon, I agree with you that the Left does not have a concept of evil, however that does not stop Leftists from using the language of evil. Several years ago Christopher Hitchens wrote a thoughtful essay defending the use of the word as "the best negative superlative that we possess." He starts the piece by writing There is probably no easier way to beckon a smirk to the lips of a liberal intellectual than to mention President Bush's invocation of the notion of "evil." Such simple-mindedness! What better proof of a "cowboy" presidency than this crass resort to the language of good guys and bad guys, white hats and black hats? Doesn't everybody know that there are shades and nuances and subtleties to be considered, in which moral absolutism is of no help? Apparently everybody does know that, since at election times the same liberal intellectual will, after much agonizing, usually cast his vote for whichever shabby nominee the Democratic Party throws up. And he will do so, in his own words, because this is "the lesser evil." So, it seems that we cannot quite do without the word, even though it's worth noticing that some people only employ it in an ironic or relativist sense, as a quality that must be negotiated with, accommodated, or assimilated. Nobody on the Left will say Bush is evil? Come now. It has happened right here at lit-ideas where Mike Geary has called Bush evil and Julie and John McCreery chimed in heartily. Ursula and others have done it as well. I think you underestimate Bush Derangement Syndrome (BDS) on the Left. And you apparently aren't acquainted with the kook fringe bloggers who personify this condition - a quick trip over to DailyKos and a dose of those crazy KosKids will disabuse you. ~Brian On Jan 1, 2007, at 2:51 PM, Simon Ward wrote: I doubt you'll find many on the left who have a true concept of evil in the sense of a profoundly flawed soul. That's far too spiritual. Instead, those on the left will talk about motives, sometimes in a conspiratorial manner, but often in terms of economic greed, not personally, but in a partisan way. It's motive that matters far more than the individual, because motive covers the broader range of decision making activities. Nobody on the left would say that Bush is evil, many, if not all, would say that he is a misguided idiot.