RP>John's distinction is the right one, it is my distinction too, as I'd have hoped would be clear. But I remain unhappy with the arranged marriage system. > That people who rejected their families'/parents' choices broke with > their families is evidence of not much. There is a long tradition in > Western literature (as well as in real life) of parents' approving or > disapproving of the marriage choices their children make, and an equally > long tradition in art and experience of children going against their > parents' wishes I agree. But it's my experience that young Muslim women who rejected arranged marriage had more to contend with than the standard "parental disapproval" pressure (I have only known a few such women, admittedly) Judy Evans, Cardiff ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html