[lit-ideas] Re: Europe (Re: Re: Dutch support killer of van Gogh)
- From: "Judith Evans" <judithevans1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:37:49 -0000
JM>This brings me to Judy's question about legal sanctions. Surely the
JM>most appropriate ones are
JM>(1) laws prohibiting marriage except by consenting adults
I distinguish, John, between arranged marriages and enforced ones. I've
mainly been talking about the former.
JM>(2) laws providing shelter for those who wish to excercise their
JM>rights under (1) who are in danger of assault, battery or murder by
JM>relatives who still believe in things like honor killings
When the law here banning enforced marriage is passed it will be,
I imagine, easier than it is now -- and more likely -- for people being
forced into marriage to seek help from social workers and the police
(and our Victim Support Groups, and shelters for victims of domestic
violence.
Judy Evans, Cardiff
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From: "John McCreery" <john.mccreery@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 9:04 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Europe (Re: Re: Dutch support killer of van Gogh)
I find our discussion so far marred by the assumption that we can pass
judgment on whether an arranged marriage is a good or bad thing.
Surely the essential point here is whether the individuals most
directly concerned, the bride and groom, have the right, as
individuals, to reject their parents' arrangements.
This brings me to Judy's question about legal sanctions. Surely the
most appropriate ones are
(1) laws prohibiting marriage except by consenting adults, with the
age of adulthood equal to that at which other adult rights, to vote,
to drink, to serve in the military, etc., are assumed.
(2) laws providing shelter for those who wish to excercise their
rights under (1) who are in danger of assault, battery or murder by
relatives who still believe in things like honor killings. For truly
extreme cases, one imagines something along the lines of the Federal
Witness Protection Program, in which individuals in need of such
assistance are enabled to move away and establish new identities of
which those who threaten them are ignorant.
An advantage of this approach is that those who find arranged marriage
beneficial can enjoy its benefits. Those who prefer to marry for love
or not marry at all remain free, as adults, to do whatever they
please.
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