'Andy': "It's curious that someone who called me a shit face and a misanthropic troll is now upset over ad hominem attacks. One of life's little ironies." shit-faced = drunk misanthrop = someone who has nothing but disdain for all or virtually all of humanity troll = one who posts to public forums for the purpose of provoking reactions I can't know if you were in fact drunk on the occasion I made this comment, but your response was bizarre and it was the character of the post to which I was referring. As to being a misanthrop, every post of yours seems to revel in it. The reference is less to your character, since there is obviously some question on this matter, but to your posts. Your posts are consistently misanthropic, full of references to how stupid and idiotic human beings are. Finally, the troll bit, is also a character of your posts in that they are designed to provoke people to response. I may be straddling a fine line here but I like to think that the above comments are directed at your posts and not your person. In other words, the posts you send to this list are at times bizarre, certainly full of loathing for human beings, and in general aim to provoke people into responding. How this relates to you as a person, I don't know and frankly I don't care, and I certainly am not going to tell you how you should live your life. I do, however, think I can comment on what is posted to the list. Finally, your reference to ad hominem is not accurate since my comments regarding your posts are not intended to function as comments on your arguments, such as they may be. Still sad, Phil Enns Toronto, ON ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html