Andreas Ramos: "Eric has no excuses. If he believes what he says, then he should do what he says." John McCreery: "This business has reached a point where concern for conventional niceties is betrayal of basic humanity." This is disappointing. I understood this list to be the gathering of people interested in the discussion of literature and ideas. Not one of us is in a position to judge another regarding how they live their lives, and this list is certainly not the place to do it. I, for one, do not subscribe to this list to have people screaming at me telling me how I should live my life. If, as John and Andreas are now insisting, this list is a place to violently attack people in order to abuse them into changing their beliefs, I can no longer continue to subscribe. I hope I am wrong. Sincerely, Phil Enns Toronto, ON ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html