Hi Michael, > What size anti-pad are you using for your vias ? (Hole size + ?) On planes that don't get connected to, they are the size of the via (24) with a 10 mil drill in the center, so the drill to copper clearance is 7. On planes that do get connected, there are thermals that are 24 mils in size, and are "spoked" to the drill hole. Here's the arithmetic for my current case: 39.37 - (4 + 4.5 + 4) - 24 = 2.87/2 = 1.43...so the plane is always 1.43 mils outside the differential pair trace. So, it has, in the case of 4/4.5/4, full coverage. Trace to drill clearance is 39.37 - (4 + 4.5 + 4) - 10 drill - 3 drill oversize /2 = 6.93 mil trace to drill clearance. Obviously, if you need wider trace/gap, you can end up not being coupled to the plane for the entire width of the trace for that short arc of a circle. I'm not sure how much of an issue, if any, this might be given how short a distance this is. It depends on how much the coupling area is reduced...and if I run into a situation when I need to do this, I'll simulate it and see what, if any, problems it shows. > In one of your previous responses you indicated that you will still > have a plane reference when routing thru the suppressed pad area > so I wanted to know how you are accomplishing this. No problem. > BTW: I think it would be a cool option to suppress the via pads > so you are able to route more traces thru between vias but I > don't know if I would really use it. It works very very well, it allows me to route two 4/4.5/4 differential traces (which works for .062 10/12 layer stack-ups just fine) from the middle of a BGA out while maintaining full differential coupling...and to be able to route differential traces THROUGH a BGA via field and maintain the differential coupling as well. It allows dispersion on less layers. I haven't found any downsides to it yet. Except getting the tool to do it that is. Regards, Austin ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx -----------------------------------------------------------