YES, I ALSO AGREE, DON'T SHUT DOWN THE LIST!!!!!!!!!! (this is worth shouting about!). Having the forum as e-mail is much more convenient and easier to use. I check my e-mail many times a day, so I don't have to remember to check the forum as I would if it was on the web. When there is a post that I want to save for future reference, I just save the e-mail to a folder. Couldn't be easier! PLEASE, KEEP THE FORUM AS E-MAIL!! Gary E. MacIndoe PCB Design Engineer Advanced Micro Devices Longmont, Colorado _____ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott, Ron Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:19 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Announcing the Transition of the ICU PCB Forum to CDNUSERS.ORG I echo George's sentiment, why shut down an easy way to communicate with each other? I took a look and registered on the other forum but it won't be as up to date as the email notifications are. The current method allows you to easily glance at subject to see if it pertains to any particular crisis you are working on. Cheers, Ron Scott C.I.D.+ Texas Instruments Storage Products Group Tel: 214.567.4715 Cell: 972.816.7978 rg-scott@xxxxxx _____ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of george.h.patrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:39 To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Announcing the Transition of the ICU PCB Forum to CDNUSERS.ORG And so the other shoe drops, and Cadence kills of another user group. I am surprised it took so long, it took them less than a year to kill off the Specctra group after they bought it. Now all those "hidden" Cadence employees (hidden except when they went on vacation) won't have to endure us "rabble-rousers" any more. Mike, the advantages are to Cadence, not to the users. It is a lot more of a hassle to have to log into a web site than it is to answer emails, but it is much easier to control content. On top of that, Cadence has absolutely NO interest in making the site more accusable to visually impaired users such as myself. When told that the next was hard to read, the web team's reply was that since my employer's site used small text, too, I had no reason to complain. Real helpful... I have enough difficulty reading the site, I doubt I will be visiting that often. It's been a fun ride. See y'all in the funny papers <:^) -- George Patrick Tektronix, Inc. Central Engineering, Engineering Design Services P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512 Beaverton, OR 97077-0001 * 503-627-5272 (voice) * 503-627-5587 (fax) <http://www.tektronix.com/> http://www.tektronix.com <http://www.pcb-designer.com/> http://www.pcb-designer.com "Off-Grid and Proud of it!" -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael.Catrambone@xxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 20:27 To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Announcing the Transition of the ICU PCB Forum to CDNUSERS.ORG Importance: High ICU PCB Forum Participants, Last month, the Cadence Designer Network rolled out an enhanced new User Community site at"www.cdnusers.org". Our goal for this site is to promote a greater exchange of technical information and ideas among customers, and between customers and Cadence throughout the year between the annual CDNLive! Conferences. This community site has established user forums for the SPB Co-Design space that the PCB Forum on Freelist.org currently serves. Cadence technical/support AEs have been encouraged to register as members of this new community to monitor the forum postings and contribute to the discussion as we have seen on the PCB Forum. The ICU PCB SIG board members, who currently maintain the Freelists PCB Forum, have accepted moderator positions on the new cdnusers community site. Detailed discussions were held regarding whether or not to move the Freelists forum to the cdnusers PCB Forum. The consensus from those discussions was that we should shutdown the ICU PCB Forum on Freelists.org and transition over to the forums on cdnusers.org. The cdnusers community site is open to the public so please feel free to browse around to see what it is all about. Note that at the forum or the thread level you are able to subscribe and get email notifications of all posts directly to your desktop (must be registered and logged in to access this feature). There are many advantages in moving over to this new user community, above and beyond the forums. The cdnusers site is organized into four major technology zones, with user-contributed articles and interviews user contributed product reviews, screenshots and videos, as well as user-to-user forums. The content on these zones will be refreshed on a weekly to bi-weekly basis, and the forums and user comments are posted immediately with moderator oversight. The forum and community moderators will poll the user community from time to time on current design challenges, tool enhancements, tool refinements and tool use common practices. This feedback will be used to drive content at the annual CDNLive! Conference and provide input to the Cadence planning/development process. We are also developing a process to capture key issues to feed back to Cadence on a regular basis which will be done via the www.cdnusers.org web site. We have a lot of talented users that have taken part in this forum and we do not want to lose this knowledge base. We encourage everyone to register for this new community site and connect with other Cadence users worldwide. Once registered you will be able to reply and post to the user forums and access any of the downloads including the CDNLive! 2005 Silicon Valley Proceedings. Please visit http://www.cdnusers.org and click Register to get started. Note: We will process the registrations as quickly as possible but there may be slight delay in receiving the confirmation email which grants login access to the site. Thank you all for supporting the ICU PCB Forum. We look forward to see everyone's participation on the new Cadence user community site, www.cdnusers.org Sincerely, Michael Catrambone UTStarcom, Inc. Chairman Cadence Designer Network Andreas Kulik ICU PCB SIG Chair PTC Randy Bye ICU PCB SIG Co-Chair Unisys Corporation Carl Musetti SilverStorm Technologies Charlie Davies Harris Corporation