[PCB_FORUM] Re: Announcing the Transition of the ICU PCB Forum to CDNUSERS.ORG
- From: "J Wages" <jwages@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 13:51:50 -0500
Yes, having the posts, (that we as the user directs,
Allegro/Specctra/Concept, etc...) sent to us by email, and allowing us
to respond by using our email, without having to log in would be better
than a "login only interface".
I would not mind going to the website to register, direct which forums I
would like to participate in (in the current manner we are using now),
and using the site as a source for past issues/solutions, as long as we
can keep the current email-string of information flow going. I don't
want to be forced to go to the website to "search" for past issues. I
would rather shoot a quick post and have someone say, "That issue was
addressed a while back and you can find it by going to this specific
section of the website." or "we addressed that in the past, so here is
the link that takes you directly to this issue" and then discuss the
issue further.
Jim S. Wages / SR. PCB Layout Designer:
Cary, NC - (919) 466-1596
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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Announcing the Transition of the ICU PCB Forum
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Importance: High
Everyone,
Sorry for my delayed response.. I was on a conference call with the
Steering Committee and could not break away.
I will try to respond to some of the concerns and issues..
You can setup the forums on CDNUSERS.ORG so you get an
immediate email when something is posted. The only limitation at
this point is have the ability to post and respond to the forum via
email
but you can follow the discussions via email. We know this is a major
limitation and have been reviewing an add-on module which will give
us the post and reply capabilities via email..
I have been signed up to the cdnusers.org forums since they want
live and yes it is a pain to login in the site to post/reply to the
forums
but I would not totally say it is unusable. I know we have sort of a
web based environment on Freelists.org for the forum but I believe
that CDNUSERS.ORG forums has more functionality and usability
features that Freelists.org does not have. I am sure some users
on this forum will agree once they look over the CDNUSERS.ORG
forums.
Most of the Cadence folks that have supported the ICU PCB Forum over
the years have already signed up and active on the CDNUSERS.ORG
forums.. We even picked up a couple more talented folks from the
Cadence side of the fence as well to assist in the moderating.
Going to Austin's response.. The goal is to have one location for
users to communicate with each other instead of having multiple
locations and that is what makes CDNUSERS.ORG a good place
to start.
We have a request in the web team to look into the hard to read text
on the web page and see what we can do... Personally, I do not have
an issues with the web site and I have very bad vision as well but the
web team is going to look into this.
I have a questions.. If we were able to get the CDNUSERS.ORG forum
such that you had the ability to monitor / post / reply directly to the
forum
via email would that address most of everyone issues/concerns ?
NOTE: We are not going to shutdown the forum immediately so please
don't abandon us yet.. Lets discuss this further.
Mike
"Austin Franklin" <austin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>@freelists.org on 03/07/2006
11:16:24 AM
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MessageI agree as well. I prefer the email list format. Web based
discussion forums are far more cumbersome IMO.
There is no reason to not continue an Allegro PCB email list on either
freelists.org or at yahoo. The important thing is to have only one
though...
Regards,
Austin
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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of J Wages
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:58 AM
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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Announcing the Transition of the ICU PCB
Forum
to
CDNUSERS.ORG
I agree. I really appreciated receiving the emails from the
icu-pcb-forum
and was happy to contribute my 2 cents. I was always able to get some
direction on issues that were pertinent to my design problems and
greatly
appreciated the help I received from others. I surely hope that this
will
continue, but I can't see my self logging in to view what the latest
question or hot topic is for the day. Please keep this email forum
going!!!
I can't stress it strongly enough how much I enjoy the simplicity,
usefulness, and the occasional chuckle at the daily discussions. I have
registered and logged into the CDNUSERS.ORG website and find it very
cumbersome. I realize that some do rag a bit much on and about Cadence,
but
it is just the nature of the beast when schedules are looming and formal
help from Cadence is sometimes slow.
Jim S. Wages / SR. PCB Layout Designer:
Cary, NC - (919) 466-1596
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george.h.patrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:39 AM
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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Announcing the Transition of the ICU PCB
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to
CDNUSERS.ORG
And so the other shoe drops, and Cadence kills of another user group.
I
am surprised it took so long, it took them less than a year to kill off
the
Specctra group after they bought it. Now all those "hidden" Cadence
employees (hidden except when they went on vacation) won't have to
endure
us
"rabble-rousers" any more.
Mike, the advantages are to Cadence, not to the users. It is a lot
more
of a hassle to have to log into a web site than it is to answer emails,
but
it is much easier to control content. On top of that, Cadence has
absolutely NO interest in making the site more accusable to visually
impaired users such as myself. When told that the next was hard to
read,
the web team's reply was that since my employer's site used small text,
too,
I had no reason to complain. Real helpful... I have enough difficulty
reading the site, I doubt I will be visiting that often.
It's been a fun ride. See y'all in the funny papers <:^)
--
George Patrick
Tektronix, Inc.
Central Engineering, Engineering Design Services
P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512
Beaverton, OR 97077-0001
A 503-627-5272 (voice) A 503-627-5587 (fax)
http://www.tektronix.com http://www.pcb-designer.com
"Off-Grid and Proud of it!"
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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Michael.Catrambone@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 20:27
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Announcing the Transition of the ICU PCB Forum
to
CDNUSERS.ORG
Importance: High
ICU PCB Forum Participants,
Last month, the Cadence Designer Network rolled out an enhanced new
User Community site at"www.cdnusers.org". Our goal for this site is
to
promote a greater exchange of technical information and ideas among
customers, and between customers and Cadence throughout the year
between the annual CDNLive! Conferences.
This community site has established user forums for the SPB
Co-Design
space that the PCB Forum on Freelist.org currently serves.
Cadence technical/support AEs have been encouraged to register as
members of this new community to monitor the forum postings and
contribute to the discussion as we have seen on the PCB Forum.
The ICU PCB SIG board members, who currently maintain the Freelists
PCB Forum, have accepted moderator positions on the new cdnusers
community site. Detailed discussions were held regarding whether
or not to move the Freelists forum to the cdnusers PCB Forum.
The consensus from those discussions was that we should shutdown
the ICU PCB Forum on Freelists.org and transition over to the forums
on cdnusers.org. The cdnusers community site is open to the public
so please feel free to browse around to see what it is all about.
Note that at the forum or the thread level you are able to subscribe
and get email notifications of all posts directly to your desktop
(must be registered and logged in to access this feature).
There are many advantages in moving over to this new user community,
above and beyond the forums. The cdnusers site is organized into
four
major technology zones, with user-contributed articles and
interviews
user contributed product reviews, screenshots and videos, as well as
user-to-user forums. The content on these zones will be refreshed
on
a weekly to bi-weekly basis, and the forums and user comments are
posted immediately with moderator oversight. The forum and
community
moderators will poll the user community from time to time on current
design challenges, tool enhancements, tool refinements and tool
use common practices. This feedback will be used to drive content
at the annual CDNLive! Conference and provide input to the Cadence
planning/development process.
We are also developing a process to capture key issues to feed back
to
Cadence on a regular basis which will be done via the
www.cdnusers.org
web site.
We have a lot of talented users that have taken part in this forum
and
we do not want to lose this knowledge base. We encourage everyone
to register for this new community site and connect with other
Cadence
users worldwide. Once registered you will be able to reply and post
to
the user forums and access any of the downloads including the
CDNLive!
2005 Silicon Valley Proceedings.
Please visit http://www.cdnusers.org and click Register to get
started.
Note: We will process the registrations as quickly as possible but
there may be slight delay in receiving the confirmation email which
grants login access to the site.
Thank you all for supporting the ICU PCB Forum. We look forward to
see
everyone's participation on the new Cadence user community site,
www.cdnusers.org
Sincerely,
Michael Catrambone
UTStarcom, Inc.
Chairman
Cadence Designer Network
Andreas Kulik
ICU PCB SIG Chair
PTC
Randy Bye
ICU PCB SIG Co-Chair
Unisys Corporation
Carl Musetti
SilverStorm Technologies
Charlie Davies
Harris Corporation
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