[PCB_FORUM] Re: Announcing the Transition of the ICU PCB Forum to CDNUSERS.ORG
- From: "Austin Franklin" <austin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 14:12:22 -0500
Hi Mike,
What IS the reason for this change? Is there a problem with the way this
email list works? It would appear to me the cdnusers.org thing is a
solution to a problem that no one (on the list) had.
My point on the single list was that if multiple people decided to set-up
lists on Yahoo/Freelists, that would fracture the list. My suggestion would
be to turn the ownership of this list over to someone in this group and to
keep it active, and not shut it down at all. If the cdnusers.org is that
much better, this list will go away on it's own.
Regards,
Austin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> Michael.Catrambone@xxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:36 PM
> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Announcing the Transition of the ICU PCB Forum
> to CDNUSERS.ORG
> Importance: High
>
>
>
> Everyone,
>
> Sorry for my delayed response.. I was on a conference call with the
> Steering Committee and could not break away.
>
> I will try to respond to some of the concerns and issues..
>
> You can setup the forums on CDNUSERS.ORG so you get an
> immediate email when something is posted. The only limitation at
> this point is have the ability to post and respond to the forum via email
> but you can follow the discussions via email. We know this is a major
> limitation and have been reviewing an add-on module which will give
> us the post and reply capabilities via email..
>
> I have been signed up to the cdnusers.org forums since they want
> live and yes it is a pain to login in the site to post/reply to the forums
> but I would not totally say it is unusable. I know we have sort of a
> web based environment on Freelists.org for the forum but I believe
> that CDNUSERS.ORG forums has more functionality and usability
> features that Freelists.org does not have. I am sure some users
> on this forum will agree once they look over the CDNUSERS.ORG
> forums.
>
> Most of the Cadence folks that have supported the ICU PCB Forum over
> the years have already signed up and active on the CDNUSERS.ORG
> forums.. We even picked up a couple more talented folks from the
> Cadence side of the fence as well to assist in the moderating.
>
> Going to Austin's response.. The goal is to have one location for
> users to communicate with each other instead of having multiple
> locations and that is what makes CDNUSERS.ORG a good place
> to start.
>
> We have a request in the web team to look into the hard to read text
> on the web page and see what we can do... Personally, I do not have
> an issues with the web site and I have very bad vision as well but the
> web team is going to look into this.
>
>
> I have a questions.. If we were able to get the CDNUSERS.ORG forum
> such that you had the ability to monitor / post / reply directly to the
> forum
> via email would that address most of everyone issues/concerns ?
>
> NOTE: We are not going to shutdown the forum immediately so please
> don't abandon us yet.. Lets discuss this further.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Austin Franklin" <austin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>@freelists.org on 03/07/2006
> 11:16:24 AM
>
> Please respond to icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
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> To: <icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> cc:
> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Announcing the Transition of the ICU PCB Forum
> to CDNUSERS.ORG
>
>
> MessageI agree as well. I prefer the email list format. Web based
> discussion forums are far more cumbersome IMO.
>
> There is no reason to not continue an Allegro PCB email list on either
> freelists.org or at yahoo. The important thing is to have only one
> though...
>
> Regards,
>
> Austin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of J Wages
> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:58 AM
> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Announcing the Transition of the ICU PCB Forum
> to
> CDNUSERS.ORG
>
>
> I agree. I really appreciated receiving the emails from the
> icu-pcb-forum
> and was happy to contribute my 2 cents. I was always able to get some
> direction on issues that were pertinent to my design problems and greatly
> appreciated the help I received from others. I surely hope that this will
> continue, but I can't see my self logging in to view what the latest
> question or hot topic is for the day. Please keep this email
> forum going!!!
> I can't stress it strongly enough how much I enjoy the simplicity,
> usefulness, and the occasional chuckle at the daily discussions. I have
> registered and logged into the CDNUSERS.ORG website and find it very
> cumbersome. I realize that some do rag a bit much on and about
> Cadence, but
> it is just the nature of the beast when schedules are looming and formal
> help from Cadence is sometimes slow.
>
> Jim S. Wages / SR. PCB Layout Designer:
>
> Cary, NC - (919) 466-1596
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> george.h.patrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:39 AM
> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Announcing the Transition of the ICU PCB Forum
> to
> CDNUSERS.ORG
>
>
>
>
>
> And so the other shoe drops, and Cadence kills of another user group. I
> am surprised it took so long, it took them less than a year to
> kill off the
> Specctra group after they bought it. Now all those "hidden" Cadence
> employees (hidden except when they went on vacation) won't have to endure
> us
> "rabble-rousers" any more.
>
>
>
> Mike, the advantages are to Cadence, not to the users. It is a lot more
> of a hassle to have to log into a web site than it is to answer
> emails, but
> it is much easier to control content. On top of that, Cadence has
> absolutely NO interest in making the site more accusable to visually
> impaired users such as myself. When told that the next was hard to read,
> the web team's reply was that since my employer's site used small text,
> too,
> I had no reason to complain. Real helpful... I have enough difficulty
> reading the site, I doubt I will be visiting that often.
>
>
>
> It's been a fun ride. See y'all in the funny papers <:^)
>
>
>
> --
> George Patrick
> Tektronix, Inc.
> Central Engineering, Engineering Design Services
> P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512
> Beaverton, OR 97077-0001
> A 503-627-5272 (voice) A 503-627-5587 (fax)
> http://www.tektronix.com http://www.pcb-designer.com
>
> "Off-Grid and Proud of it!"
> -----Original Message-----
> From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Michael.Catrambone@xxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 20:27
> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Announcing the Transition of the ICU PCB Forum to
> CDNUSERS.ORG
> Importance: High
>
>
> ICU PCB Forum Participants,
>
> Last month, the Cadence Designer Network rolled out an enhanced new
> User Community site at"www.cdnusers.org". Our goal for this
> site is to
> promote a greater exchange of technical information and ideas among
> customers, and between customers and Cadence throughout the year
> between the annual CDNLive! Conferences.
>
> This community site has established user forums for the SPB Co-Design
> space that the PCB Forum on Freelist.org currently serves.
> Cadence technical/support AEs have been encouraged to register as
> members of this new community to monitor the forum postings and
> contribute to the discussion as we have seen on the PCB Forum.
>
> The ICU PCB SIG board members, who currently maintain the Freelists
> PCB Forum, have accepted moderator positions on the new cdnusers
> community site. Detailed discussions were held regarding whether
> or not to move the Freelists forum to the cdnusers PCB Forum.
> The consensus from those discussions was that we should shutdown
> the ICU PCB Forum on Freelists.org and transition over to the forums
> on cdnusers.org. The cdnusers community site is open to the public
> so please feel free to browse around to see what it is all about.
>
> Note that at the forum or the thread level you are able to subscribe
> and get email notifications of all posts directly to your desktop
> (must be registered and logged in to access this feature).
>
> There are many advantages in moving over to this new user community,
> above and beyond the forums. The cdnusers site is organized into four
> major technology zones, with user-contributed articles and interviews
> user contributed product reviews, screenshots and videos, as well as
> user-to-user forums. The content on these zones will be refreshed on
> a weekly to bi-weekly basis, and the forums and user comments are
> posted immediately with moderator oversight. The forum and community
> moderators will poll the user community from time to time on current
> design challenges, tool enhancements, tool refinements and tool
> use common practices. This feedback will be used to drive content
> at the annual CDNLive! Conference and provide input to the Cadence
> planning/development process.
>
> We are also developing a process to capture key issues to feed back to
> Cadence on a regular basis which will be done via the www.cdnusers.org
> web site.
>
> We have a lot of talented users that have taken part in this forum and
> we do not want to lose this knowledge base. We encourage everyone
> to register for this new community site and connect with other Cadence
> users worldwide. Once registered you will be able to reply
> and post to
> the user forums and access any of the downloads including the CDNLive!
> 2005 Silicon Valley Proceedings.
>
> Please visit http://www.cdnusers.org and click Register to get
> started.
> Note: We will process the registrations as quickly as possible but
> there may be slight delay in receiving the confirmation email which
> grants login access to the site.
>
> Thank you all for supporting the ICU PCB Forum. We look forward to see
> everyone's participation on the new Cadence user community site,
> www.cdnusers.org
>
> Sincerely,
> Michael Catrambone
> UTStarcom, Inc.
> Chairman
> Cadence Designer Network
>
> Andreas Kulik
> ICU PCB SIG Chair
> PTC
>
> Randy Bye
> ICU PCB SIG Co-Chair
> Unisys Corporation
>
> Carl Musetti
> SilverStorm Technologies
>
> Charlie Davies
> Harris Corporation
>
>
>
>
>
>
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