You guys are killing me. So keep both 60mm and 80mm and then get the fabled 100mm and may be the 120mm and also the 50mm CFEL to complete the set? :-) -- // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.com/blog/> // photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com> [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all previous replies in your msgs. ]