[gptalk] Re: New Dells Not Installing Software

  • From: "Steve Evans" <scevans@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 08:07:30 -0700

I'll go through and make sure all 4 of those KB's are in place.  If that
doesn't do it I'm going to be calling Microsoft this morning.

I'll let everyone know what I find.


Steve Evans



-----Original Message-----
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Nelson, Jamie R Contr 72 CS/SCBAF
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 8:01 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: New Dells Not Installing Software

Are you leaving all the other settings in place or are you reversing the
previous changes with each new suggestion?

If you've done the following, then we covered all the usual culprits and
you may have some other problem:

1) Disabled Fast Logon Optimization (305293)
2) Disabled DHCP Media Sense (326152)
3) Entered GpNetworkStartTimeoutPolicyValue (840669)
4) Entered WaitForNetwork setting (842804)

Suggest you do the following:

1) Ensure NIC is set to auto-negotiate and check network port
2) Update NIC driver
3) Try a different NIC

If none of that works, calling Microsoft would be the only other
solution.

//signed//
Jamie R Nelson
Systems Engineer
Ingenium Corporation

-----Original Message-----
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Steve Evans
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:23 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: New Dells Not Installing Software

Yes, I am now getting:

Event Type:     Error
Event Source:   UserInit
Event Category: None
Event ID:       1000
Date:           5/11/2007
Time:           10:59:05 PM
User:           N/A
Computer:       CP-TS-PRD02
Description:
Could not execute the following script startup.bat. The system cannot
find
the file specified.


In addition to the 1053 error.

Steve Evans



-----Original Message-----
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On
Behalf Of Nelson, Jamie R Contr 72 CS/SCBAF
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 6:38 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: New Dells Not Installing Software

Sounds like you definitely have some kind of race condition. Did you get
any errors in the event log about not being able to find the startup
script?

//signed//
Jamie R Nelson
Systems Engineer
Ingenium Corporation

-----Original Message-----
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Steve Evans
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 12:55 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: New Dells Not Installing Software

I added a startup script and a shutdown script.  Both of which wrote a
different file on the C: drive.

The startup file was not written.

The shutdown file was written.


Steve Evans



-----Original Message-----
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Nelson, Jamie R Contr 72 CS/SCBAF
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 11:45 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: New Dells Not Installing Software

Strange...maybe that setting doesn't affect Windows 2003 Server. I could
have sworn it did. Can anyone confirm/deny that?

One thing you might try is assign a computer startup script to that
server that creates a text file or something simple. Then reboot it and
see if that script actually runs against the server. That would at least
help determine whether it is a network race condition or actually
something with Software Installation policy.

//signed//
Jamie R Nelson
Systems Engineer
Ingenium Corporation
72 CS/SCBAF
405.739.2811 (DSN 339)


-----Original Message-----
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Steve Evans
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 12:24 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: New Dells Not Installing Software

I just upped it from 180 to 300.  My understanding is that would pause
the
boot-up process for 5 minutes (or until it get's a network link).  I get
to
the logon prompt within 5 minutes easily.  So it appears to not be
pausing
the boot-up process.


Steve Evans



-----Original Message-----
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On
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Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 6:39 AM
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Subject: [gptalk] Re: New Dells Not Installing Software

Strange, usually one of those three things fixes those kinds of issues.
When you used the GpNetworkStartTimeoutPolicyValue setting, what did you
set the timeout to? 60 seconds?

...You might try increasing to something larger, say 300 seconds, and
see if that works. If it does then gradually decrease it until you find
a reasonable setting that works.

//signed//
Jamie R Nelson
Systems Engineer
Ingenium Corporation

-----Original Message-----
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Steve Evans
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 6:21 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: New Dells Not Installing Software

I knew I forgot one.  I did try that with no success.  I used the
Windows XP
SP2 instructions, even though this is a Win2k3 SP1 box.


Steve Evans



-----Original Message-----
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 7:51 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: New Dells Not Installing Software

Steve-
Have you seen
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;840669

And tried using the GpNetworkStartTimeoutPolicyValue reg value?

Darren

-----Original message-----
From: "Steve Evans" scevans@xxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 18:31:11 -0400
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: New Dells Not Installing Software

> Ive set Always wait for the network at computer startup and > logon
to
> enabled.
> 
> I've set "DisableDHCPMediaSense" to 1.
> 
> No dice on either of them.  Any other ideas?
> 
> 
> Steve Evans
> 
> 
> From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>
On
> Behalf Of Nelson, Jamie R Contr 72 CS/SCBAF
> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:19 AM
> To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gptalk] Re: New Dells Not Installing Software
> 
> Check out the following articles:
> 
> Cannot connect to domain controller and cannot apply Group Policy with
> Gigabit Ethernet devices
> 
> Group Policy application fails on a computer that is running Windows >
2000,
> Windows XP Service Pack 1, or Windows XP Service Pack
> 
> Description of the Windows XP Professional Fast Logon Optimization >
feature
> 
> Fast Logon Optimization is most likely your problem.
> 
> 
> //signed//
> Jamie R Nelson
> Systems Engineer
> Ingenium Corporation
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>
On
> Behalf Of Steve Evans
> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:49 AM
> To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gptalk] New Dells Not Installing Software
> 
> I'm trying to push software to our terminal servers via GPO.  Our >
latest
> batch of Dell's are failing at this.  At bottom we get 1053 errors >
from
> Userenv.
> 
> Windows cannot determine the user or computer name. (The specified >
domain
> either does not exist or could not be contacted. ). Group Policy >
processing
> aborted.
> 
> The computer and user policies are taking effect though, and refresh
> properly after boot-up and/or logon.  It's only during the boot up >
process
> that we're unable to access GPO's.
> 
> We've run into this before but updating the NIC drivers fixed it.  >
I've
done
> the same on these (Dell 2950's Broadcomm NetXtreme II) but no improved
> results.
> 
> Any ideas on what could be going on?
> 
> 
> Steve Evans
> 
> 
> 
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