Your point is well taken.The other factor may be the mechanical workings of the Braille device itself in winter climates.
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To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 1:11 PM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: trekker experiences
Braille, apart from expense is just not practical in cold climates.Even typing on what ever the device is very difficult, impossible in gloves or mitts and soon impractical with bare fingers.----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael May" <mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 11:14 AM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: trekker experiencesInteresting analogy with the guide dog with vision problems. Not sure thatquite applies but makes for a fun idea. True, any time you have a built in GPS receiver you have the benefit of convenience but the slight drawback of not being able to use the latestsensitive GPS receiver. One nice thing about the Voice Sense QX and BrailleSense OnHand, they have GPS built in but can also connect to an external receiver. In my book, the higher priority when selecting a device is the userinterface. All of these devices do the basics of telling you where to turnand with a touch of a button, they might tell you the nearby location information.However, when you want to set an address or search for points of interest,there is nothing as efficient as a full Braille or QWERTY keyboard. The means of doing this on an iPhone or on the new Breeze is slow compared to typing on a keyboard.I think what people end up doing is fewer searches because it is a pain todo so on these small keypads or touch screens. It is unfortunate tosacrifice functionality for portability or convenience. Price is obviouslyalso part of that equation. There are always trade offs. At the risk of being a broken record, there isn't one perfect accessible GPS device that suits all the people all the time. There are pros and cons to all these devices. It is a matter ofrecognizing what those factors are and trying to match them to your needs,capabilities and budget.I am a huge fan of having built in Braille in my portable device. If you canafford it or find a sponsor, this is the best of all worlds. If you can throw in an iPhone with LookAround, the bases are covered nicely. Mike -----Original Message----- From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Noseworthy Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 4:59 AM To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: trekker experiences Hello:Actually, as a person who is very familiar with both the iPhone apps and theBreeze, if you are looking for an orientational gps system, then the Trekkeris definitely a better unit in spite of it's very serious drawbacks. One ofthose serious drawbacks, one that is shared by both systems, is the fact that it is not possible to use an external GPS receiver.For navigation, Nokia phones with Nokia maps provides a better solution asexternal GPS receivers can be used on those systems.Of course, you could jale-break the iPhone and try an external GPS solutionthus changing the game. With regards to the Breeze supporting Braille: the simple fact of the matter is that the hardware cannot support that option. It's a strange thing but the weakist link in both systems is the GPSreceiver itself. It would appear that we are in to technology rather thanpractical issues such as dependability and safety: kind of like having a guide dog with vision problems. Cheers.----- Original Message ----- From: "Tanner, David (DEED)" <David.Tanner@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 8:37 AM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: trekker experiencesWant a cheaper solution then look at iPhone or iTouch 4 with Navagon orTom Tom with VoiceOver and Sendaro Look Around. That solution will costnothing close to the cost of Breeze, and a person can even haverefreshable Braill with that solution if they want. Trekker never has hadBraille support, and from the reactions I have gotten from top people atHumanware it never will have Braille support because sighted management atHumanware doesn't think it is important. -----Original Message----- From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of gary melconian Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 7:58 PM To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: trekker experiences It costs $895 less than any other blind designed gps solutions out there also in future the human ware developers will be porting most of the features from the old trekker pro into the trekker breze and to make the product ieven more and more powerful ofa device for their pro user who have had trekker pro versions. The new trekker breze is a full off theground solution from human ware and not an off the shelf solution from the past . that is all that I know at this point. I am planning on lookinginto that solution as I have a trekker pro and I am thinking one of thesedays it will stop working for me and will have to find a cheaper solution.-----Original Message----- From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ricky Prevatte, LMBT 1154 Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:32 PM To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: trekker experiences How much?----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Kennedy" <jkenn337@xxxxxxxxx>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 2:22 PM Subject: [gps-talkusers] trekker experiencesHiWell guys I got my trekker breeze. I took a walk last night and also thismorning. I used it to make my house and a small alley a landmark and mychurch a landmark. The breee did real good with making pedestrian routes to and from the church to my house to the store and back. It also told meabout lots of points of interest that I did not even know were in my area.I like the trekker. I will compare it to the kapten with latest kapten updates when I get the kapten of course. Oh one thing that I would like humanware to do is instead of buying trekker maps on cd, offer trekker breeze maps as a download from their site after purchase. Josh To change your email settings (unsubscribe, digest only, or vacation mode): http://senderogroup.com/social_media/email.htm Additionally, to unsubscribe send an email to gps-talkusers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject.To change your email settings (unsubscribe, digest only, or vacation mode): http://senderogroup.com/social_media/email.htm Additionally, to unsubscribe send an email to gps-talkusers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject. 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