Carl said, You showed how the Catholic Church united the world's worship. That's good if you are a Catholic, but scary if you see the Scriptures promoting something else! I do not see how being united in worship as being scary or contrary to scripture.. I was worried though that the concern was only for a united date being chosen, and not for it to matter which was the correct date. Seeing as it may be almost impossible to get consus for a correct date, maybe it does not matter... But then perhaps the Holy Ghost has a hand in it. We have every reason in the world to suspect the 25th December for Christmas, yet maybe the Holy Ghost knows different... Even though the Church states historically this was arbitarily chosen to conform with the pagan state Holiday of ancient Rome... That way they got more chances at conversions, giving more people the opportunity for it.. Re the overlapping, as you see from the article there were many divergencies within a framwork.. Philip