Dear Philip, Plokinghorne is a disgrace, but he is just the kind of 'Christian' representative the media love because he is an evolutionist. If you want to try and destroy something e.g. Christianity, you do it from within. Jack PS Is it necessary to refer to you daughter as a protestant heretical, I never refer to you as a Roman Catholic heretical? Have you noticed that when the media report a crime committed by a 'Christian' they always make sure his faith is mentioned, but they never ever mention that all the other crimes are committed by non-Christians. ----- Original Message ----- From: philip madsen To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:56 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Leonardo and Richard http://www.creationresearch.net/ Talking of debates, in 2005 my heretical protestant daughter gave me to watch a DVD distributed by creation research , which was of a debate presented in the Liverpool Cathedral, welcomed by Roger Phillips, between John Polkinghorne theologian of the cathedral, and a former president of Queens College Cambridge, and John Makay, Australian geologist. The Big Question...IS EVOLUTION COMPATIBLE WITH THE CHRISTIAN FAITH. Marvellous presentation. All the more gripping, because here we had a cleric in uniform, supposedly God's man arguing for evolution, against a rough and tough aussie scientist, who I must say won the debate hands down.. There was no contest. If you have not seen this video, then I do thoroughly reccomend it. Philip