[geocentrism] Re: Leonardo and Richard

  • From: Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:51:44 -0800

 
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Neville J

From Neville Jones Tue Sep 4 14:25:27 2007

Paul,
I'm equal to the task, I believe, though since I am "Dictator of the World," you will have to agree that I can do it my way, rather than yours.
That seems reasonable.
The copies of the report have been distributed to large companies who have contracts with NASA, and to government departments, which I, by definition, control. I am confident that there are not any copies floating about, especially as I know how many were produced.
But you don't know how many clandestine copies -- the (including all un-authorised daughter copies) as spelled out in the Task Sheet, have been made. History is replete with examples of dictators who thought that they had covered their tracks but the truth has a way of coming to the surface. Okay, I'll accept that. A copy or two may still show up somewhere.


The wife and daughter are no problem, a couple of "Special Agents" take them away somewhere. The author is then told that to see them again he has to go to Location X.
You truly are are a malovelent offspring of an illigitimate canine aren't you? Shame! I used to be as gullible and naive as you are, but I pray for wisdom and understanding.
At Location X all three of them are given a small injection, placed in a car, and taken to the railway crossing, perhaps at night when only heavy goods trains are trundling through (only guessing here, by the way).
I'd guess the drugs would show up in the autopsy. They may have been cremated, as JFK Jr was within 5 hours of his body being recovered from the sea. Physics would indicate that the car was stationary. How would it do that?
Money, which I myself print, ensures that the contractors hand in the
[ original ] report copies, and the government agencies, who know my methods and choose to work for me, hand in theirs. All present and correct, so to speak. And you wiped their memories how? Why would I need to? Who could remember the contents of a 500-page report? (This is exactly the reason why NASA, if it were a genuine organization, would not destroy detailed plans of very complicated machinery.) And even if they could, it would technically be hearsay evidence without the original document and worth nothing in a court of law. Even the report itself would be worth little without the author, who could not be cross-examined. Also, why would they risk their jobs, salary, esteem to spill the beans on so formidible an adversary?
Quite simple really, just a matter of power and money - and I have unlimited supplies of both do I not.
Well there is a flaw in this argument. So many people think that money is just printed paper. It isn't. If you print more money than there is production of goods to back it, it devalues proportionally, thus while there may be more bits of paper in circulation, you can only buy what has been produced and that for inflated prices. Robert Mugabe and Zimbabwe are an excellent example. Just 15 minutes ago, I saw the BBC carry the news item that Zimbabwe's bread producers warned that they had only two days supply of flour available. Where do you think the money loaned to you as a mortgage comes from? (Ask Philip, if in doubt.) Do you think it comes from depositors, all beavering away so that you can borrow their hard-earned money?

But Paul, you obviously know about this unfortunate business. Can you give us your explanation as to the cause? Well I hate to burst your bubble again but I had not heard of it til you raised the matter in your post From Neville Jones Tue Sep 4 14:25:27 2007. I still lack any form of confirmation. I Googled (with correct spelling) and received this response Did you mean to search for: author+wife+daughter+nyasa+railway+collision+report there being 112,000 hits. None of the first page were relevant -- I didn't look further. What references can you offer?

I've remarked previously on the distinguishing marks of the fundamentalist. One I have not thus far mentioned (I think) is that in the fundamentalist's understanding, there is no such thing as a coincidence, that there is always significance -- usually dark. Well we rationalists are confident that coincidence is common. For instance people commonly marvel at things like the odds of having an ace high straight flush in hearts dealt in five cards. Well this happened to me once when we were playing poker in the shelter shed when I was a high school student. The thing that most people don't seem to grasp is that there is no less probability of being dealt 4heart, 3diamond, queen-diamond, ace-club and 7spade. There are an enormous number of such unique combinations and they all have the same probability.

The point of all this is that this author had to be somewhere, he probably had a family -- a wife and daughter (the only offspring?) is common, railways criss-cross most countries, family wipe-out collisions are not that uncommon -- just keep watching the evening news and sooner or later you'll see one, and he was one of the many employees of NASA which is hardly distinguishing. That he had a 500 (how very neat! Oh, do I detect a hint of suspicion here, are you questioning my use of '500'? 501, 498, 519, 473, is that really an important issue?) page report and an unspecified number of copies with him (no one said that they were 'with him') for which there is no evidence is just too easy to manufacture.
I have to admit though that you thought of many things which did not occur to me. It's probably all in the way our two minds work. It is also true that I gave you too many powers -- more than any dictator could hope to enjoy. (Except perhaps Colossus in
The Forbin Project (1970). Scarry movie -- did you see it? No, I seldom watch movies.)

Neville, I didn't mean to challenge you in this -- it was a 'rhetorical challenge', -- meant only to indicate how difficult such a task would be in the real world -- I didn't expect you to respond. You made a point that I considered was worthy of a response.

Neville.

Paul D

PS Have you forgotten those two questions to which you as yet not responded?

Yes, feel free to re-post them.

Neville.


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