[geocentrism] Re: Leonardo and Richard

  • From: Bernie Brauer <bbrauer777@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:27:59 -0700 (PDT)

Regarding Money:
  http://educatecanada.googlepages.com/currency
   
  Bernie

Jack Lewis <jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    DIV {   MARGIN: 0px  }        Dear Paul,
  I agree with all you say. Its the people who control the money who decide 
what is done with it. The money is used to promote whatever their particular 
interests are which by and large are unhelpful for the general population. Its 
like having a magic wand and an unlimited number of wishes. Its all about 
controlling people. In a true Christian society there would be no need for 
money. It will be interesting to see how the world will be governed by Jesus 
when the millennium comes.
   
  Jack 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Deema 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 5:18 PM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Leonardo and Richard
  

    
  Jack L
  Essentially I agree with all you've said. My point is that if you have the 
power and you decide to print more of it to finance your whims, you'll find 
that as you finance more and more whims you will need ever more and more money. 
This is called inflation (as I'm sure you know) and what it does in effect is 
remove the equity which prudent people have amassed against their unproductive, 
declining years or any other savings. Then it is used to finance these whims 
and later, when you run out of the pillaged product of prudent peoples pequity, 
you face a nation where there is only two day's supply of flour available.
Concerning how NASA (and everyone else) uses money, it is only a token of time 
productively spent. (If it is not productively spent you are committing fraud, 
eg you can't finance a nation by paying some people to dig holes and paying the 
rest to fill them in -- because there is no one milling flour and baking 
bread). If this production is everything from bread to super efficient inertial 
guidance navigation equipment, from bricks to rocket motors, from ... well I 
think you'll see what I'm driving at, then there is value in all transactions.
  Concerning control of finances and thus of people. What he is saying here of 
course is that he will have control of where the time is productively spent ie 
"I will pay you to make bread and bricks, meat and medicine, education and 
roads. I will not pay you to build domestic swimming pools, to pay high 
salaries to models and movie actors, or subsidise advertising and gambling 
casinos.
  Agree?
  Paul D
  

  ----- Original Message ----
From: Jack Lewis <jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, 5 September, 2007 3:31:19 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Leonardo and Richard

  DIV {  MARGIN:0px;}      Dear Paul,
  I'm no financial geek but I ask you to consider this.
  Everyone knows that NASA spends billions on space research. Where exactly 
does the money go? It certainly isn't wasted as many people believe. The money 
simply changes hands and moves around - its all still here trapped on earth. 
The only thing that gets wasted is the energy used and the bits of hardware 
that get left in space or burnt-up on re-entry. Since the way that money is 
printed and equated to 'goods' is controlled by the people with the power, 
governments, bankers etc. they can do exactly what they like. This is what is 
happening in Zimbabwe and is caused by the very people I have just mentioned. I 
can't remember who made this quote but it went something like this, "I care not 
about the laws of a country, just give me control of its finances and I will 
control everybody."
   
  Jack
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Deema 
  To: Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 4:08 PM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Leonardo and Richard
  

    
  
Quite simple really, just a matter of power and money - and I have unlimited 
supplies of both do I not. Well there is a flaw in this argument. So many 
people think that money is just printed paper. It isn't. If you print more 
money than there is production of goods to back it, it devalues proportionally, 
thus while there may be more bits of paper in circulation, you can only buy 
what has been produced and that for inflated prices. Robert Mugabe and Zimbabwe 
are an excellent example. Just 15 minutes ago, I saw the BBC carry the news 
item that Zimbabwe's bread producers warned that they had only two days supply 
of flour available. 






  
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